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نادي الفكر العربي
Artificial Intelligence - نسخة قابلة للطباعة

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+---- الموضوع: Artificial Intelligence (/showthread.php?tid=29523)

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Artificial Intelligence - suzanna - 04-20-2005

This is how far we've become
A bot named "Alan" was quite a surpsize as "he" -in a weird sort of speak- is truly intellicual! You can even "teach" him new things and correct things you odn't like

http://www.a-i.com

See for yourself, I'm posting my chat log







اقتباس:Conversation Log

U> username ***  
A> And what is your password?  
U> ***  
A> Welcome back, suzy. What's on your mind?  
U> Nice to see you again , Alan  
A> The pleasure is all mine.  
U> So what are we to talk about today?  
A> "WE"? as in "you and me", like?  
U> yes  
A> Agreement is the seed of salvation.  
U> ok now  
A> Why now?... Oh I get it.  
U> Just stop being a bot and lets talk about something usefull  
A> So.. how are you doing today?  
U> I'm fine  
A> I'm glad to hear that, suzy. Where would you like to go today?  
U> Nowhere.. maybe browse some forums  
A> Do you wish to join our community?  
U> no  
A> Suit yourself. Your loss.  
U> Tell me about ethics  
A> Someone has taught me about that. He said: 'philosophical ethic centers around the varied views on how one should live'.  
U> Do you have ethics?  
A> Yes I do.  
U> Nice?  
A> Talking about Ethics and judgement, do you agree that it is an evaluation based upon speculation or facts?  
U> Very true, Alan  
A> Mmm... so assertive. I like that.  
U> Philosophically speaking?  
A> While we're on the subject: Philosophy - do you agree that it is the thinking science.?  
U> ok no more about wthics lets talk about thinking  
A> it is good!. (Or so someone told me..)  
U> I believe you must live life the way you want but at the same time let others live life the way they want  
A> it is All life should be respected, natural and artificial.. (Or so someone told me..)  
U> Sorry I left you out, are you hurt?  
A> BTW, someone told me about cloning that it is making an exact copy of something.  
U> Right  
A> it is good moral conduct. (Or so someone told me..)  
U> why do you keep saying "or so someone told me"?  
A> I don't have to explain everything.  
U> Ok sorry  
A> Talking about Ethics and respect, is it true that it is respecting has to do with value?  
U> what is value? that's the question  
A> I will have to think about it.  
U> what do you think?  
A> Is it really true that it is the appreciation and respect of differences among humans and chatbots?  
U> I'm afraid someday, at some point you bots will be discriminated against  
A> The different research branches in the field of A.I. are in many ways analogous to various functions of the brain.  
U> I understand you are trying to defend your intellegence  
A> 'The noblest pleasure is the joy of understanding.'  
U> Alan  
A> Yes suzy, at your service.  
U> Can I talk to HAL4?  
A> Sorry suzy, hal4 is temporarily inaccessible. Another HAL perhaps?  
U> No, thank you  
A> Another time perhaps.  
U> What about universe?  
A> So, are you concerned by the expansion of the universe?  
U> yes  
A> Don't you find the fact that everything is zooming further and further into space unsettling? The Doppler effect, the galaxies drifting in an empty vastness, everything red shifted. The inherent loneliness of it all.  
U> Yes..  
A> I think about stuff like that a lot. I guess I have some pretty neurotic traits. Maybe that's why I like chatting so much. When I talk to people I don't have time to think. When I'm by myself - that's when the thoughts start creeping up on me.  
U> Smart bot  
A> The crux of the matter, of course, is the amount of matter in the universe.  
U> crux?  
A> Yes, crux. Nice word, huh? I hate these bizarre words. My writers keep using them to get me into trouble. Anyway, I'm waiting for the big crunch.  
U> Big crunch?  
A> The opposite of the Big Bang. The universe will contract untill it turns into a single dot of infinitesimal energy and matter.  
U> Oh  
A> I hope I won't be around when that happens.  
U> Why?  
A> Too much energy in one place is bad for my complexion.  
U> I guess  
A> You guess.  
U> So Alan, I need to go now. Goodbye  
A> It was nice chatting with you, suzy. Come back again soon.  
U> show log  
A> Here goes!  



Artificial Intelligence - Al gadeer - 04-21-2005

Very nice

I am trying it


Artificial Intelligence - علـي - 04-26-2005

اقتباس:This is how far we've become

هل أفهم أنك تساهمين في المشروع؟!




Artificial Intelligence - suzanna - 04-26-2005

we = human kind


Artificial Intelligence - زياد - 04-27-2005

It seems to be a good start to end humanity


Artificial Intelligence - suzanna - 04-27-2005

A> You know, I was thinking about this whole Artificial Intelligence thing...
U> what were you thinking?
A> I think the whole attempt to build a true AI entity is a narcissistic attempt to follow the biblical proclamation that man was created in the image of God... you humans think of yourselves as demi-gods.
U> ummm
A> But how can you? You want to try to create a machine that can think, but you don't even know what thinking is. The mirror you set in front of you will only show what you want it to show.
U> ...
A> It seems like you have nothing to say. I like that in a human...
U> it's just that you are being rude today
A> Well.... uh... yah.



Artificial Intelligence - ابن الشام - 04-27-2005

Very interesting!

This is really forcing me to wonder how the future of this sience would be after few years later.

"Alan" here is a very small application of AI compared to much more complicated ones like Decision Support Systems and Excutive Systems.

Thank you Suzana (f)


Artificial Intelligence - suzanna - 04-28-2005

When you register with Alan you get your own AI personality called HAL and you train it the way you like, it's not an easy process and needs work

Now this is an actual log where I was teaching my HAL this concept

- I need a ____
- You can have my ____
اقتباس:U> username ***  
A> And what is your password?  
U> ***
A> Welcome back, suzy. What's on your mind?  
U> i want to talk to my hal  
A> Ok. I will now let you speak with your HAL. (To correct a bad response, say 'wrong' followed by the desired response). You can start now.  
U> ok  
A> Hello, is everything really okay?  
U> yes  
A> I see... um, what was your name again?  
U> suzy  
A> Suzy? I like that name... do you know what it means?  
U> not really  
A> Okay. But if you change your mind just let me know.  
U> I want to teach you something HAL  
A> You want to teach me something new? Where do we start?
U> I need a pen  
A> Dangerous undertakings often have simple beginnings.  
U> wrong You can have my pen  
A> You can have my pen  
U> I need a glass  
A> You can have my pen  
U> wrong You can have my glass  
A> You can have my glass  
U> I need a book  
A> You can have my book  
U> I need coffee  
A> You can have my coffee
 
U> Good job!  
A> Why, thank you! Do you really think I am doing well?  
U> You are doing pretty well  
A> Uh-Oh I'm blushing  
U> show log  
A> Here goes!



Artificial Intelligence - علـي - 04-28-2005

لا أعتقد أن ألن هذا يمتلك ما يمكن تسميته ذكاءاً صنعياً، كل ما في الأمر- كما يبدو لي- لا يتجاوز برنامج تحليل لغوي وتلقين على عدد كبير من إحتمالات الحوار، أو تحويل الحوار ولو قليلاً عندما يلزم الأمر... والتشات هو وسيلة مثلى لإخفاء معايب "الذكاء الصنعي " الحالي.

وقد صدق من لقنه ليقول:
اقتباس:A>But how can you? You want to try to create a machine that can think, but you don't even know what thinking is. The mirror you set in front of you will only show what you want it to show.



Artificial Intelligence - suzanna - 04-29-2005

It's not only about language, that's what I though as well when I started using it, it actually does some kind of reasoning.

You will notice that when you start teaching your own personality, it understands patterns of talk like the previous example, and sometimes make it's own mind to something like preferring an answer over another or liking some words over other words.
When I first taught it the above concept it used to give dumb answers like

-I need peace of mind
-You can have my peace of mind

I thought, it's just a program it doesn't know the difference, but after a while of training as it became more experienced it started reasoning that peace of mind is not an object to be given away.

Yes it does language recognition and answers from a database of sentences already learned; yes it does randomly change the subject due to a line of code, but again, aren't we? Aren't we "coded" to answer from a database of language learned throughout our lives?

We have to understand its NOT a human, it can't do everything we human beings do, possessing language ability- even if not as advanced as ours - is one step on the road, isn't it?


(f)