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الزميل " الزعيم رقم صفر" فتح موضوعا يسأل فيه عن " اين الانجيل الاصلي" و فيه سنحاول الرد "مسيحيا" فقط.

لكن بما ان الشئ بالشي يذكر اريد ان اسال انا ايضا احبائنا المسلمين عن الاية التالية:

قُلْ يَا أَهْلَ الْكِتَابِ لَسْتُمْ عَلَى شَيْءٍ حَتَّى تُقِيمُوا التَّوْرَاةَ وَالإِنجِيلَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُمْ مِنْ رَبِّكُمْ
" (المائدة: 68) .

و لنفرض جدلا أننا نريد ان ننفذ أمر محمد "اقامة التوراة و الانجيل".

نحن امام فرضيتين:
1- الانجيل الذي بين ايدينا و التوراة هما كتابا الله الحقيقين و بالتالي نستطيع ان نعمل بهما. لكن في هذه الحالة على كل المسلمين رفض محمد كنبي و رفض الاسلام كدين لانه ليس من عند الله و القبول بالسيد المسيح ربا و مخلصا و فاديا لهم حتى ينالوا الخلاص.

2- الانجيل و التوراة التي بين ايدينا ليست كلام الله لانها تعرضت للتحريف و الضياع بحسب كلام المسلمين , و بالتالي كلام محمد (و الذي من المفروض ان يكون صالحا لكل زمان و مكان) لا قيمة له هنا, لانه يطلب فعل شئ مستحيل. و كاني اقول لك: اذا اردت ان تذبح الديناصور فخذ معك سكينا طوله متر( مثلا يعني). و طالما الديناصورات هي حيوانات منقرضة , فكلامي اذا عن ذبحها هو " بلا طعمة". و بالتالي ايضا الاية ليس لها " طعمة" هنا.

ما الحل الذي يريح المسلمين؟
09-15-2010, 12:29 PM
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