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RE: أين الإنجيل الأصلى بلغة اليسوع ؟
(09-16-2010, 10:46 PM)الزعيم رقم صفر كتب:  معتزلى

حتى الأن لم أفهم أين هو الإنجيل المنزل على نبى الله عيسى ؟

أهو ما يطلق عليه النصارى حاليا لفظة الإنجيل ؟ أو أنك تتكلم عن شئ أخر أنت وحدك تعلمه و نحن لا نعلمه

بالإذن من الأخ المعتزلي وليعذر تطفلي بما أني مسيحي:

الإنجيل ليس كتاب وإنما هو شخص. حياة المسيح من البداية إلى النهاية هي الإنجيل وتم تدوين ذلك ولكن جاء وقت وكل هذا لم يكن مدوّنًا ومع ذلك فالإنجيل كان حاضر وانتقل من مرحلة الشفاهية إلى التدوين. مجرد أنك تعلن خبر مجيء المسيح وكل ما يتصل به وحتى لو ليس معك كتاب فأنت إذ ذاك تعلن الإنجيل كاملاً. أتمنى أني أكون اختصرت على مشوار طويل من الجدل العقيم حول النصوص. النصوص بها الإنجيل ولكن الإنجيل ليس بالضرورة نصًا وإنما هو بشارة حياة المسيح.


أيضا مفهوم الكتاب "المُنزَل" غير موجود بالمرة في المسيحية أو حتى اليهودية. فكرة التنزيل هي مفهوم إسلامي محض. ليس عندنا تنزيل في المسيحية وإنما عندنا وحي وإلهام. الله يوحي بذاته وهذا اسمه الوحي. الله يلهم كتبة الأسفار فيكتبوا بإرشاد روحه رسالته ولكنها ليست إملاء. فيها صوت الله وهي كلمة الله ولكنها ليست إملاء كما هو الحال في القرآن الكريم.


ودم بكل خير.

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RE: أين الإنجيل الأصلى بلغة اليسوع ؟ - بواسطة إبراهيم - 09-16-2010, 11:09 PM

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