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انت تدين بالاسلام= انت نازي بازي
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RE: انت تدين بالاسلام= انت نازي بازي
سلام للجميع,,

الزميل الصفي:

اقتباس:لا تعرف ما هو حديث الآحاد و لا تريد أن تدخل في متاهته . اذن كيف بربك تريد أن تفتي ؟
و حتى لا تدخل في متاهة , أنظر الى الروايات العديدة التي أوردتها و قد بلغت 11 أقرا السطر الاول بعد الخبر ستقرأ : الرواي: عمر بن الخطاب فيها كلها.
لا يوجد راو للحديث الا عمر بن الخطاب وحده, لهذا يسمى خبر الواحد.

يا عزيزي لم اقل انني لا اعرف حديث الاحاد, بل قلت انني لا اريد أن ادخل في متاهته. , انا اقرا يا عزيزي ما أنقل و عارف تماما ان الاحاديث الاحدى عشر التي سقتها هي عن طريق عمر بن الخطاب فقط و لذلك نقلت لك الحديث الثاني عشر عن طريق أبو عبيدة.

لكن متاهتي و هي " معك" يا عزيزي ستكون في : هل يؤخذ بحديث الاحاد و خصوصا أنه لا يتكلم عن " عقيدة" و الثاني ان الراوي هو عمر بن الخطاب بنفسه و هو الذي "بلغ من بصيرته وقوة إيمانه أنه كان ينطق باللفظ فيوافق وحي السماء". قال له محمد مرة " أكتبها فهكذا نزلت" عندما نزل "الوحي" ايضا على عمر و قال : "فتبارك الله أحسن الخالقين". و لا ننسى أن عمرا هذا هو أحد المبشرين بالجنة ايضا .

فهل سترد حديثا لعمر؟

رقـم الفتوى : 8406
عنوان الفتوى : حديث الآحاد.. معناه... ووجوب العمل به
تاريخ الفتوى : 06 ربيع الأول 1422 / 29-05-2001

السؤال

السادة أصحاب الفضيلة بعد التحية نرجو إفادتناعن معنى أحاديث الآحاد وحكم العمل بها وحكم من أنكر السنة القولية مدعيا أن ما ورد في القرآن يكفينا ونرجو بعض الأمثلة لأحاديث الآحاد
الفتوى

الحمد لله والصلاة والسلام على رسول الله وعلى آله وصحبه أما بعد: ‏

فالآحاد في اللغة جمع أحد،.......

ووجوب العمل بخبر الواحد قد تضافرت عليه الأدلة من كتاب وسنة، وهو مذهب ‏الصحابة رضي الله عنهم، ومذهب تابعيهم بإحسان. فقد عمل الصحابة بالآحاد وحاجّوا ‏........ ومن أشهر ما يمثل به علماء المصطلح لخبر ‏الآحاد حديث: " إنما الأعمال بالنيات" حيث تفرد عمر بن الخطاب رضي الله عنه بروايته ‏عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، وتفرد علقمة بن وقاص الليثي بروايته عن عمر وتفرد ‏محمد بن إبراهيم التيمي بروايته عن علقمة وتفرد يحى بن سعيد الأنصاري بروايته عن عمر ‏بن إبراهيم، قال الحافظ ابن حجر في شرح نخبة الفكر: وقد وردت لهم متابعات لا يعتبر بها.‏
و................ وممتنع أن يحث الله عز وجل على ما لا فائدة فيه، ‏فدل على أن الحجة قائمة بخبر الواحد. ‏
أما الدليل على قبول خبر الواحد من السنة فبعثه صلى الله عليه وسلم إلى الآفاق معلمين ‏وداعين، كمعاذ بن جبل وأبي موسى الأشعري ودحية بن خليفة الكلبي، ولو كان خبر ‏الواحد لا تقوم به حجة لكانت بعثته لهم صلى الله عليهم وسلم عبثاً والله أعلم.‏
أما من أنكر وجوب العمل بما استوفى شروط الصحة من السنة: قولية أو فعلية أو تقريرية ‏فهو كافر مرتد، لإنكاره معلوماً من الدين بالضرورة. يقول الإمام السيوطي في كتابه ‏مفتاح الجنة في الاحتجاج بالسنة: "فاعلموا رحمكم الله أن من أنكر حديث النبي صلى الله عليه ‏وسلم قولاً كان أو فعلاً بشرطه المعروف في الأصول حجة، كفر وخرج عن دائرة ‏الإسلام، وحشر مع اليهود والنصارى أو مع من شاء من فرق الكفرة"‏.

http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/Fatwa/ShowF...on=FatwaId&lang=A&Id=8406

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و أما ما تقوله هنا عن حديث أبو عبيدة :
اقتباس:ما زال خبر أحاد لأن الرواية الاولي ليست الثانية .

فانت تقول انه حديث مختلف و نسيت ان تقول ان له نفس المعنى "بتطهير " أرض المسلمين من اي دين أخر و بالتالي هو أيضا يصادق على حديث عمر . فكلمة "لا يبقى دينان" تعني تمام تطهير الارض من اليهود و النصارى و اي دين اخر. اذا نعود ايضا الى نازية محمد .

و أما قولك:
اقتباس:الفكرة ان اخراجهم سببه نقضهم للعهود و تآمرهم على قتل النبي و تحالفهم مع المشركين ضده. فهل فعل النصارى هذا؟

فلماذا اخراج قوم بأكمله؟ هل كل اليهود بالتمام و الكمال نقضوا العهود؟ فليعاقب من خالفه بالسجن مثلا اذا كان " رحمة" من عند الله.
لا بل كيف يخرج اليهود من ارض عاشوا فيها قبله؟ و هم يعنبرون من سكانها الاصلين و هم من قبل محمد بالف او الفي سنة؟؟

و قولك:
اقتباس:تدميرهم للاقتصاد بتعاملاتهم الربوية.

فانا اترك جوابه للسيد " أدم سميث" و مفهومه عن السوق الحرة .

و أما :

اقتباس:هل يجرؤ أحد أن يتحدث عن عنصرية و نازية ( اليهود)؟ أم ان المسلمين هم الحائط القصير؟


هل تريد ان تقول ان محمد حاول ان يفعل تماما ما يفعله اليهود اليوم مع الفلسطينين؟
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RE: انت تدين بالاسلام= انت نازي بازي - بواسطة لكي تجثو باسم يسوع كل ركبة - 09-20-2010, 09:09 AM

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