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RE: الأدلة على وجود إله كامل خارق كلي القدرة حكيم عادل
واسمح لي ان اقول لك ان لديك لبس في معرفة وإدراك ماهية الله وماهية الشيطان. فإذا كان
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والشيطان يكيد
والشيطان يفتن إلى آخ
فهذا من اختصاصه وتركيبته.هو مصدر الشر إن لم يكن هو الشر بعينه.


بل اللبس لديك أنت يا أنس ، بل ظاهر ما تقرره هنا أن هناك متصرفين في الكون أحدهما بالخير والآخر بالشر !!! وهذه مصيبة ..

نعم الله هو الهادي وهو المضل وهو المنتقم وهو الجبار سبحانه ، ولكن هذه الأسماء والصفات تدخل في عقيدة الموحد ضمن منظومة الحكمة والعدل كما ذكر حسن سلمان ..
أيها الملحدون//
قضايا الخق الثلاث (( خلق الكون والحياة والإنسان )) لا تقوم إلا بعد التسليم بحكمة الله المطلقة وعلمه المطلق وقدرته المطلقة ، وما لم تسلموا بهذه المعاني فلن يستقيم لكم برهان ولن ينشرح لكم صدر ، بل ولن يستقيم معكم نقاش ؛ لأننا ندور في دائرة مغلقة فنرجع إلى نقطة واحدة ثم نبدأ منها ونعود إليها ..

انظروا إلى الزميل أنس كيف وقع في الشرك دون أن يعلم بل وتهرب من الجواب /
هو يقول الله هو الهادي .. فسألته لماذا لم يهدي من ضل من الخلق هل لأن إرادة المضل وهو الشيطان غلبت !!
فكان جوابه يوحي بــــ ( نعم ) لأن الإضلال من اختصاصه !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

أما الجواب عن سؤالك لي فهو /
نعم المضل وصفٌ حسن وكامل في ميزان الشرع وكذلك المنتقم والمتكبر والجبار .... الخ
هل تعلم لماذا ؟
لأنني أصف بهما إلها مطلق العلم ، ومطلق القدرة ، ومطلق الحكمة ، ومطلق العدل ..
فإذن هو المضل لأنني لو قلت عكس ذلك كقولك فمعنى هذا أن الإضلال قد خرج عن قدرة الله ..

مشكلتك أنك تفهم الإضلال بعيدا عن العدل والحكمة والقدرة وهنا مزلة قدم الملحدين كلهم .

فهم لم يسلموا لله تعالى بعلمه وحكمته فجادلوه في خلقه !

تأمل معي قوله تعالى :
(( لخلق السماوات والأرض أكبر من خلق الناس )) فإذن أكبر من خلق جزء الإنسان وهو العقل
وقوله (( ما أشهدتهم خلق السماوات والأرض ولا خلق أنفسهم )) ولكن الملحد يطلب الشهادة في كل ذلك !!!

أنس : أنت بهذه العقيدة غير مسلم فاحذر أن يغرك عقلك ...
بيني و بينك التاريخ، اما اني صادق و اما ان النص صادق، احضر لي اسم رسول الاسكيمو أو اي ديانة نزلت عليهم و بعدها سأعطيك قائمة بباقي الشعوب التي اظن انه لم يأتيها رسول

المعتزلي:
أثبت لي أنت أولا أن الاسكيمو كانت قرية (( بمعنى فيها أنا س وحياة )) قبل آلاف السنين وأنا أذكر لك اسم رسولهم ؛ لأنه قد يأتيني شخص آخر فيقول ومن هو رسول أمريكا الشمالية !!!!!!!!!!!!!

ثم إن في النص الديني :

(( ورسلا لم نقصصهم عليك ))

فنحن لا نزعم الإحاطة بجميع أسماء الرسل ومن أرسلوا إلهم من القرى والشعوب ...

أما عن مفهوم الإلحاد فسأسألك سؤالا :
شخص يقر بوجود الله وبقدرته ولكنه يرى أنه حاطنا فيران تجارب وقد يصفه بالطفل الذي يلعب ويعبث !!
ماذا تسميه :

1/ موحد
2/ مشرك
3/ ملحد

طبعا انتبه ترا المشرك يعظم الخالق ولكنه يساوي بينه وبين غيره في التعظيم !!!
(( ولئن سألتهم من خلق السماوات والأرض ليقولن الله ))
(تم إجراء آخر تعديل على هذه المشاركة: 09-22-2010, 12:22 PM بواسطة سيف الدين الآمدي.)
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