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RE: الرد على: حتى تقيموا التوراة و الأنجيل
(10-20-2010, 10:30 PM)لكي تجثو باسم يسوع كل ركبة كتب:  سلام للجميع,,

قبل ان ندور و نلف مرة اخرى مع الزميل الصفي في هذا الموضوع, خطر على بالي التالي:

لماذا سمى الله اليهود اهل كتاب و لم يسمهم: اهل الالواح؟

يقولون "أهل مكة أدرى بشعابها", و لكن عندما يتعلق الأمر بالتوراة و اهل التوراة و فالمثل يتحول الى التالي:
أمر مؤسف يا زميل لكي تجثو أن حواراتك دائما تأتي نزقة و بعيدة عن الموضوعية. انت سالت و أجبتك رغم ذك تنكر انني اجبتك او هكذا احسست من مداخلة سائل الرب.
لم يسميهم أهل ألواح و سماهم أهل الكتاب لانهم كتبوا الكتاب و لم يكتبوا الألواح, هل هذه غير مفهومة.
الأمر الثاني و المهم هو انني لم اقل ان كل وحي الله الى موسى هو الألواح. فمن البدهي أن تعرف بان الله تعالى خاطب موسى قبل مواعدته في الجبل و ايضا بعد أن أعطاه الواح التوراة في الجبل. ما قبل و ما بعد الألواح ايضا يُسمى وحي و كلام الله الذي أوحاه الى موسى عليه السلام. لهذا فانت تلف و تدور في حلقة مفرغة لانك تعتقد بأن كل وحي الله الى موسى طوال فترة رسالته اقتصر على التوراة و هو مالم أقل به.
النقطة المحورية التي تتهربون منها هي أنكم لا تستطيعون مهما أوتيتم من خيال و حجة أن تقنعوا أحدا بأن الاسفار الخمسة هي كتابة موسى و انها التوراة لعدم استطاعتكم تبرير ورود جمل مثل ( و لما أكمل موسى كتابة هذه التوراة) في سفر تزعمون انه من التوراة.

اقتباس:اسكتوا يا بهايم يا اصحاب التوراة , فالقران و محمد ادرى بكم و بتوراتكم من أنفسكم! فانتم اغبياء و تاريخكم غبي و كتبكم غبية و انتم اغبياء . فكتبكم محرفة و انتم كذابون و الله وافق على ضياع كلامه -كرمال عيون محمد- و الله ضحك على اليهود لمدة الفين و خمسمائة سنة و على المسيحين لمدة 600 سنة قبل أن يفكر بارسال محمد ليوقف خدعته الكبرى!
هذا ما لم يقله أحد.
الكتاب الذي كتبه اليهود و زعموا انه من عند الله , لا دليل على انه من عند الله و معروف انه كُتب على مدى زمني طويل و بايدي مئات الاشخاص ( كما قالوا هم أنفسهم) .
و لم نقل أن كلام الله قد ضاع. قلنا ان كلام الله الموحى الى انبيائه بما فيهم موسى و عيسى كان محفوظ في صدور المؤمنين بهم في زمانهم فهل اتباعهم خالدون لم يموتوا حتى الان؟



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