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RE: تشدد شيوخ السلفية....((دعوة للنقاش))
اقتباس:الأخ ATmaCA كتب
اما موضوع التسيير هذا فمن يرى انه مسير بالرغم من انه يستطيع ان يؤمن ويستطيع ان يكفر ويستطيع ان يعصى الله فى ملكه فهذا مسفسط مع احترامى لك ..نظر حولك فانت حر تمامًا تستطيع ان تفعل ما تشاء ولم يجبرك الله على شىء .. اما الاية التى تستشهد بها فليس معناها الاجبار ولم يقول هذا الكلام لا النبى صلى الله عليه وسلم ولا اهل التفسير فمن اين تستقى معلوماتك ؟؟؟ هات لى عالم او مفسر او حديث للنبى صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول ان الانسان مسير .. اصلا كل النصوص فى مسألة الاختيار صريحة فى حرية الانسان .
طيب قل لنا ماذا يعني هذا الحديث؟ ولماذا تمر عليه مر الكرام ؟اليس هذا دليل على ان الإنسان مسير؟
ال الإمام احمد:حدثني.. عن ...قال:سمعت رسول الله(ص) يقول:يدخل الملك على النطفة بعدما تستقر في الرحم بأربعين ليلة فيقول :يارب ماذا؟شقي ام سعيد؟ ,أذكر ام أنثى؟ فيقول الله,فيكتبان,ويكتب عمله وأثره ومصيبته ورزقه,ثم تطوى الصحيفة فلا يزاد غلى ما فيها ولا ينقص .وقدرواه مسلم في صحيحه.(تفسير ابن كثير ج3 ص248)
تفضل واشرح لنا الجديث مشكورا.
اقتباس:وقلت ايضا
فمن اين تستقى معلوماتك ؟؟؟ هات لى عالم او مفسر او حديث للنبى صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول ان الانسان مسير .. اصلا كل النصوص فى مسألة الاختيار صريحة فى حرية الانسان .
أليس هذا بحديث صحيح؟هل تنكره؟أم ماذا؟ وشكرا
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RE: تشدد شيوخ السلفية....((دعوة للنقاش)) - بواسطة anass - 05-13-2011, 02:31 PM

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