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RE: الرد على: قطع يد السارق حكم جاهلي وهمجي وقاصر
عزيزي الحوت , الاخوة الافاضل

كيف حالك
(07-14-2011, 08:00 PM)الحوت الأبيض كتب:  أود التعليق على مدحكم للسجن، لقد برهن اليوم أن السجون (كما تكون في أغلب الدول) لا تحل المشكلة وأغلب من يدخلون السجون يتورطون أكثر بعالم الإجرام.... إن كنت تود تهذيب الإنسان فلا تعزله ليعيش منفصلا مع مجرمين آخرين فذلك سيؤدي به إلى التورط أكثر فأكثر في عالم الإجرام.

من قال ان السجن عبارة عن عزل لمجموعة مساجين مجرمين مع بعضهم البعض فقط دون أن تعرض ما تفعله الدول المتحضرة مع المساجين من تهذيب و اصلاح و أعادة تأهيل و فشل التطبيق في بعض السجون في الدول المتأخرة لا يعني أن النظرية خاطئة .
على فكرة لو كنت مصري مثلي لعرفت ان هناك معارض ضخمة في كافة انحاء الجمهورية و في القاهرة يوجد معرض بالسبتية لانتاج قطاع مصلحة السجون تعرض فيه الموبيليا و المفروشات التي تنسجها السجينات بأسعار و خامة ممتازة .

هل تعرف فيلم ( جعلوني مجرما ) لفريد شوقي الممثل المصري , هذا الفيلم كان سبب في الغاء السابقة الاولى من الصحيفة الجنائية للمجرمين في قضايا السرقة في الخمسينيات لانك تعطي فرصة لمن أخطأ لكي يجد فرصة عمل شريفة تكفل له حياة كريمة .

في هذه الفترة كان السارق لا يجد احد يقبل باعطاءه فرصة عمل حتى و لو كان سرق مرة واحدة لهذا ينجرف أكثر للسرقة لهذا وجدوا من الرحمة أعطاءه فرصة ثانية و أذا أخطأ مرة اخرى و سرق تغلظ عليه العقوبة و تسجل السابقتان عليه .

لكن المشكلة في الشريعة الاسلامية أنه لو سرق شخص مرة واحدة يظل مقطوع اليد مدى الحياة و كأن آله الاسلام الغفور الرحيم لا يعرف رحمة .

هل يعقل أن شخص أخطأ مرة نحطمه هكذا مدى الحياة ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

في مشكلة أكبر من هذا كله , طبقا للشريعة الاسلامية من سرق حبل او بيضة تقطع يده , يعني من يسرق دينار أو حبل غسيل مثل الذي سرق مليون دينار أي لا يوجد تدرج في العقوبة .

القانون المدني حديثا يدرج العقوبة حسب نوع الجرم يعني من يسرق الف جنيه عقوبته تختلف عن من سرق 10 مليون جنيه مع أعطاء الجميع فرصة للتوبة و العمل مرة أخرى و ليس أحداث عاهة مدى الحياة في السارق و غلق كل الفرص للحياة الكريمة عليه و مساواة الجميع في العقوبة حتى لو أختلفت درجة الجريمة و حجم المسروقات .

هل هذا منطق ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

عبد المسيح

(07-15-2011, 07:11 AM)عاشق الكلمه كتب:  فماذا عن المسيحى وهو الشعله المتقدة من الفهم واللوذعية ! هل يعقل أن يؤمن رجل مسيحى يفكر ويفهم ويتعظ ويقوم بتشغيل عقله بأن هذا النص الأهبل هو نص الهى وأن يؤمن به :

(تثنيه 25 : 11)
" اذا تخاصم رجلان بعضهما بعضا رجل واخوه وتقدمت امرأة احدهما لكي تخلّص رجلها من يد ضاربه ومدّت يدها وامسكت بعورته فاقطع يدها ولا تشفق عينك "

ما الداعي لتحويل الموضوع الى اليهودية الا الهروب من الحوار و النقاش , شبهتك لا علاقة لها بالمسيحية بل هي من تعاليم اليهودية و أحكامها و سبق الرد عليها مرات و مرات فهل يوجد لديك رد
اسلامي مقنع ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

عبد المسيح
(تم إجراء آخر تعديل على هذه المشاركة: 07-18-2011, 01:40 PM بواسطة ABDELMESSIH67.)
07-18-2011, 01:26 PM
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