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RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر .
(09-17-2011, 09:39 PM)الحوت الأبيض كتب:  أدرك يا بهجت حرصك على مصر ومستقبلها وأتفهم ما تتكلم عنه، لكنني أرى (ولا أدعي خبرة أو امتلاك الحقيقة لكن لي رأي) أن المجلس العسكري يود إبقاء النظام كما كان مع بعض التعديلات الشكلية... لنترك السياسة جانبا ونتكلم عن الاقتصاد، لا أظن أن الأرباح الهائلة التي حصدها أحمد عز أو غيره هي وضع طبيعي بل هي نتيجة لفساد استمر لسنوات ولا أظن أن على هذا الوضع أن يستمر للحفاظ على "الاستقرار". يجب التعامل مع المسألة بحذر شديد لكن لا بد من التعامل مع هذه الإشكالية.

على فكرة قرأت في مكان ما أن دراسة وجدت أن نصف الإضرابات العمالية هي للمطالبة "بتدوير" العجلة الاقتصادية، بمعنى أن بعض رجال الأعمال الذين حصلوا على أراضي دولة بأسعار بخسة وأقاموا عليها مصانع يحاولون افتعال أزمات اقتصادية فيها ولا يشغلونها كي يعلنون الإفلاس تحضيرا لبيعها عقارا وحصد ربح سريع... لا أقول بأن هذا هو سبب تراجع الاقتصاد لكن ربما لمثل هذه الأمور دور فيها... وهذا يذكرني بأمور شبيهة حدثت في الأرجنتين في أزمة عام 2002/3 مما جعل بعض العمال يسيطرون على المصانع وتشغيلها بطريقة التعاونية cooperative مما ساهم بعض الشيء بتحسين الوضع (لكن لا تزال هنالك مشاكل)... لا أدري مدى تفشي مثل هذه الظواهر لكن يجب إجراء تحقيقات ودراسات حول الموضوع والتعامل بحزم معها.

لسنا في مصر وحدنا من واجه تلك المشكلة ،و التي يمكن توصيفها بأن الثروة توجد في يد أعداء النظام الجديد ،وهؤلاء يطلق عليهم أخلاقيا أو سياسيا لصوصا و أعداء الشعب . المعضلة هي أننا نريد الثروة و لكننا لا نريد أصحابها . هذه الثروة عادة لا يمكن الحصول عليها منفصلة ،و بدون مساعدة أو التصالح مع أصحابها . هناك مدخلان لهذه المعضلة ، هناك شعوب ناضجة حكمت العقل ووجدت حلآ ولو على حساب العدل المطلق و لكنه المفقر ، وهناك شعوب أخرى تفتقد الحكمة سعت إلى الإنتقام و الفقر معا . الحل الأول أمكن تحقيقه بشكل ناجح خلال لجنة الحقيقة و المصارحة Truth and reconciliation commission كما حدث في جنوب إفريقيا و تحت قيادة الأسطورة " نيلسون مانديللا " ،و غيرها من الدول أيضا ( حوالي 20 دولة ) مثل كولومبيا و شيلي و الفليبين ... الخ . و التي تعتمد على إقرار المسؤولين السابقين بذنوبهم و إعادة الأموال المنهوبة في مقابل عفو رئاسي ،و هكذا أمكن بناء نظاما جديدآ شعبيا عادلآ ،و أيضا الإحتفاظ بالثروة القومية بل و تنميتها ، هذه الثروة التي لا يمكن بنائها في سهولة في عالم تنافسي يزداد تعقيدآ . في المقابل هناك الحل الثاني وهو حل يعتمد على إثارة غريزة الجماهير و تهيجها بالشعارات ثم عدم السيطرة عليها بعد ذلك مما يحيلها لقوة مدمرة ،وهذا هو الحل الذي تتجه إليه مصر . أعلم أن المجلس الأعلى أوحى لحكومة عصام شرف بعدم ممانعته لإجراء مصالحة مع رجال الأعمال الذين لم يتورطوا في جرائم عتف ضد الشعب من أجل الحفاظ على الإنتاج و عدم هروب الأموال للخارج ،و لكن عصام شرف رفض ذلك و أحال كل الأمور للقضاء خوفا من إحالته هو للمحاكمة لاحقا كما حدث مع غيره ! . هذه هي الأرجل المرتعشة و الملابس المبتلة التي تدير البلاد الآن ،و بالتالي فعلينا أن نتوقع الأسوأ . القضاء غير مهيأ لإدارة الإقتصاد ،ولا توجد دولة واحدة في العالم حتى دولة القرود تعتمد على القضاء في اتخاذ قرارات ذات طبيعة إقتصادية ،و لكننا في مصر نفعل ذلك ليس الآن فقط بل منذ زمن مبارك ، ولهذا لم ينجح المصريون أبدآ في تاريخهم كله في صنع نهضة اقتصادية نتيجة التفكير البيروقراطي و الأخلاقي الظاهري ، هذا التداخل المرضي في وظيفة الإقتصادي و القاضي أفسدت الإقتصاد و القضاء معا .
إضرابات الموظفين و العمال الأخيرة في مصر لم تقم أبدآ من أجل الصالح العام و لكن لمطالب فئوية ، وهي تدور حول رفع الرواتب و توظيف الأبناء ( توريث جديد ) و غيرها من المطالب التي إن كانت مفهومة فهي غير مبررة مع ظروف البلد ، فبعضها يحتاج إلى ميزانية إضافية تعادل الميزانية الحالية . أخبرني أحد الضباط أنه كان موفدآ للسيطرة على اضطرابات في بنك حكومي ، و لكنه وجد كل الموظفين في حالة هياج شديد ،و هناك موظف يهدد و يرغي و يزبد قائلآ :" لازم اقتل ابن الكلب اللي جوه !" ثم يستطرد :" بقى انا دفعته آخذ 20000 جنيه وهو ياخذ 100000 " ، ففتح الضابط فاه مندهشا وقال له "والله أنا عايز أفرغ الطبنجة في راسكم انتم الإتنين " فالضابط كان دخله لا يزيد عن 2000 رغم أنه مهندس و أقدم منهما !.
من الخطأ ان يفكر الإنسان في توزيع الدخل دون أن يفكر في كيفية الحصول عليه ،و لكن هذا ما نفعله الان بالفعل و النتائج كارثية .


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RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-08-2011, 07:24 PM,
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RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-09-2011, 04:41 PM,
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RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-08-2011, 08:22 PM,
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RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-08-2011, 10:03 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-09-2011, 06:10 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-09-2011, 10:10 PM,
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RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Narina - 09-09-2011, 10:46 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-09-2011, 10:59 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-10-2011, 12:29 AM,
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RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Guru - 09-10-2011, 01:52 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-10-2011, 03:02 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-09-2011, 11:47 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Sniper + - 09-10-2011, 01:29 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-10-2011, 01:32 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-10-2011, 03:13 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-10-2011, 09:41 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-10-2011, 11:05 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-10-2011, 12:14 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-10-2011, 12:30 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهاء - 09-10-2011, 12:36 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-10-2011, 12:58 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-10-2011, 01:40 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-10-2011, 02:27 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-10-2011, 03:23 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-10-2011, 03:53 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Sheshonq - 09-10-2011, 05:29 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Guru - 09-10-2011, 07:14 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Sheshonq - 09-10-2011, 07:06 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-10-2011, 08:00 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-10-2011, 08:12 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-10-2011, 08:14 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-10-2011, 08:19 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الحكيم الرائى - 09-10-2011, 09:10 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهاء - 09-10-2011, 10:20 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-10-2011, 09:59 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-10-2011, 10:23 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-10-2011, 10:31 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-11-2011, 02:10 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Guru - 09-11-2011, 03:06 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة لواء الدعوة - 09-11-2011, 03:22 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Guru - 09-11-2011, 05:01 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة لواء الدعوة - 09-11-2011, 08:22 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-11-2011, 11:52 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-11-2011, 01:45 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-11-2011, 12:33 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-11-2011, 02:44 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-11-2011, 04:45 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-11-2011, 06:13 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-11-2011, 06:36 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-11-2011, 06:41 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-11-2011, 06:47 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-11-2011, 07:13 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-11-2011, 07:42 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-11-2011, 07:36 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-11-2011, 08:09 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-11-2011, 08:05 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-11-2011, 10:02 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة AhmedTarek - 09-11-2011, 10:31 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-12-2011, 12:34 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة coco - 09-12-2011, 12:51 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الحوت الأبيض - 09-12-2011, 12:56 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-12-2011, 12:58 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-12-2011, 01:22 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة coco - 09-12-2011, 01:13 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-12-2011, 06:17 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-12-2011, 01:54 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-12-2011, 05:26 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة coco - 09-12-2011, 07:07 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-12-2011, 07:09 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة coco - 09-12-2011, 07:21 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-12-2011, 11:09 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-13-2011, 01:53 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة فضل - 09-13-2011, 02:11 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 09-12-2011, 11:22 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Sheshonq - 09-12-2011, 11:39 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-13-2011, 02:12 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-13-2011, 04:58 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-15-2011, 03:14 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-13-2011, 03:32 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-13-2011, 04:19 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-13-2011, 11:37 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة Sheshonq - 09-13-2011, 04:31 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-14-2011, 01:18 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة coco - 09-13-2011, 05:26 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة coco - 09-14-2011, 12:49 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة coco - 09-14-2011, 04:07 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-14-2011, 04:48 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-14-2011, 09:01 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة jafar_ali60 - 09-14-2011, 11:23 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-15-2011, 12:22 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-17-2011, 02:26 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-15-2011, 12:57 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة نظام الملك - 09-16-2011, 07:26 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-17-2011, 12:53 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-15-2011, 06:53 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-15-2011, 11:58 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-16-2011, 03:20 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-17-2011, 04:12 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-17-2011, 01:28 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-17-2011, 06:12 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-17-2011, 08:49 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-18-2011, 08:50 PM
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-18-2011, 09:08 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-18-2011, 04:55 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-21-2011, 01:01 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة أبو نواس - 09-21-2011, 04:50 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-21-2011, 09:33 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-27-2011, 01:14 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-27-2011, 02:06 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-29-2011, 09:15 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-30-2011, 02:09 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-30-2011, 01:14 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 09-30-2011, 01:46 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 09-30-2011, 05:02 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الجواهري - 09-30-2011, 05:09 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة ahmed ibrahim - 09-30-2011, 07:58 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-01-2011, 01:08 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 10-01-2011, 03:55 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-01-2011, 04:36 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الجواهري - 10-01-2011, 04:57 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-01-2011, 06:22 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة jafar_ali60 - 10-01-2011, 06:51 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-02-2011, 04:51 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-03-2011, 10:38 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-04-2011, 11:39 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-02-2011, 10:20 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة أبو نواس - 10-03-2011, 12:34 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-03-2011, 11:33 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 10-03-2011, 03:07 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-04-2011, 02:24 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 10-05-2011, 01:17 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-06-2011, 02:34 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-06-2011, 05:29 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-06-2011, 05:17 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-07-2011, 01:20 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 10-06-2011, 10:26 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-07-2011, 02:33 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة أبو نواس - 10-07-2011, 01:57 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-08-2011, 07:34 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 10-07-2011, 05:11 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 10-07-2011, 07:03 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-08-2011, 12:03 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة أبو نواس - 10-08-2011, 08:50 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-09-2011, 03:08 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-10-2011, 01:32 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 10-10-2011, 03:25 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-10-2011, 10:42 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-11-2011, 04:17 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 10-11-2011, 03:02 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-14-2011, 10:55 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-15-2011, 09:59 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-18-2011, 02:16 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة jafar_ali60 - 10-18-2011, 06:51 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-19-2011, 11:01 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 10-27-2011, 11:12 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-02-2011, 10:38 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الحكيم الرائى - 11-02-2011, 10:42 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-02-2011, 10:50 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الحكيم الرائى - 11-02-2011, 11:17 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-03-2011, 10:55 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-03-2011, 05:07 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الحكيم الرائى - 11-03-2011, 06:12 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-03-2011, 07:26 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الحكيم الرائى - 11-04-2011, 12:30 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة نظام الملك - 11-04-2011, 04:53 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة jafar_ali60 - 11-12-2011, 01:10 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-12-2011, 10:22 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-24-2011, 10:24 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة أبو نواس - 11-24-2011, 07:02 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-25-2011, 07:49 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-25-2011, 01:31 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-25-2011, 02:01 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-25-2011, 07:01 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-25-2011, 08:22 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-25-2011, 10:22 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-25-2011, 11:00 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-26-2011, 03:08 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-26-2011, 03:45 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-28-2011, 12:07 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة طنطاوي - 11-26-2011, 10:54 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-26-2011, 04:18 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-27-2011, 11:30 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-27-2011, 12:46 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-28-2011, 07:11 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-28-2011, 02:49 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-29-2011, 11:22 AM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-29-2011, 12:48 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة handy - 11-29-2011, 10:28 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-16-2011, 08:22 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-16-2011, 08:22 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-16-2011, 08:34 PM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 11-29-2011, 09:19 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-14-2011, 08:24 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة حمزة الصمادي - 12-22-2011, 01:45 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-14-2011, 09:05 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-18-2011, 02:18 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الحوت الأبيض - 12-22-2011, 12:34 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة jafar_ali60 - 12-22-2011, 03:56 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-22-2011, 12:47 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-22-2011, 01:35 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة الحوت الأبيض - 12-22-2011, 03:12 AM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-22-2011, 02:52 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة عاشق الكلمه - 12-22-2011, 06:49 AM,
الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-22-2011, 03:23 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-24-2011, 10:44 PM,
RE: الرد على: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-24-2011, 11:58 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 12-30-2011, 06:08 PM,
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RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة ahmed ibrahim - 01-26-2012, 09:41 PM,
RE: مليونية لحرق مصر . - بواسطة بهجت - 01-24-2012, 02:47 PM,

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