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- ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) -
صلاح الدين بن شبيبة غير متصل
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المشاركات: 24
الانضمام: Sep 2007
مشاركة: #42
RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) -
الأخ TERMINATOR3 قد عقب على بعض ما أردت التعقيب عليه وإليك الباقي

لكن قبل ذلك فاعلم أني مثل غيري الكثير من الناس الذين يجدون تناقضات كبيرة في الدين (اسلام مسيحية...) وفي الإله بشكل خاص وتقريبا كل ما فكرت به وتفكر به أو ستفكر بها لأنه سبقنا الكثيرون بنفس الأفكار وسيلحقنا الكثيرون.
لكن ما لا استسيغه عموما هو الاصطياد في الماء العكر وطرح إشكاليات واهية بدل التركيز على أمور أساسية ذات قيمة فعليا وتبحث حقا حقائق الديانات والآلهة.

وكمثال اقتبست بعض الأمور التي ذكرتها وعقبت عليها لأبين لك أنا كثيرا مما تقوله هنا في هذا الموضوع هي أمور تافهة ويُمكن تؤويلها بكل بساطة من كل ذي عقل.

(11-26-2011, 05:51 AM)الفكر الحر كتب:  coptic eagle : ملكة سبأ وولاية المراءة
عَنْ أَبِي بَكْرَةَ قَالَ : ( لَقَدْ نَفَعَنِي اللَّهُ بِكَلِمَةٍ سَمِعْتُهَا مِنْ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ... قَالَ : لَمَّا بَلَغَ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَنَّ أَهْلَ فَارِسَ قَدْ مَلَّكُوا عَلَيْهِمْ بِنْتَ كِسْرَى قَالَ : لَنْ يُفْلِحَ قَوْمٌ وَلَّوْا أَمْرَهُمْ امْرَأَةً )
رواه البخاري (4425)، ورواه النسائي في " السنن " (8/227) وبوب عليه النسائي بقوله : "النهي عن استعمال النساء في الحكم " انتهى.
http://www.islam-qa.com/ar/ref/135052
إلا ان الحقيقه ان هناك من افلح اذ ولوا امرهم امراءة !
يعني مثلا الملكه بلقيس كانت ملكه حكيمه ونجت اهلها وشعبها من الغزو

http://www.islamweb.net/media/index.php?...A&id=60314
...وهنا تبرز صفات الرجاحة والحكمة والحنكة لدى تلك المرأة العاقلة الملكة ، وكيف هداها عقلها الراجح للإيمان، وأن تدع عبادة الشمس لتعبد رب الشمس، وتستغفره وتهدي شعبها كذلك للتوحيد. ويثبت لنا من قصتها بعد التأمل بعض الحقائق كما يلي :
1- حسن التقدير والاحترام والفهم لفحوى الرسالة التي ألقاها الهدهد حيث قالت: (قَالَتْ يَا أَيُّهَا الْمَلَأُ إِنِّي أُلْقِيَ إِلَيَّ كِتَابٌ كَرِيمٌ )[النمل:29-31].
.....

يمكن هنا ان أجيبك بشيء بسيط وهو: الشاذ لا يقاس عليه
حقيقة ربما ليس صوابا أن نعتد بالقول أن تولي المراة الحكم شيء سيء لكن كذلك لا يعني أنه خطأ فنحن لم نختبر الكثير من النساء لكي نحدد نسبة.
وخذ عندك مثلا: في الاسلام المسألة التي تقول بانه علينا أن نتبع الجماعة...
أي نعم قد يكون فرد واحد على صواب والجماعة على خطأ (كـ نيكولاس كوبيرنيكوس والكنيسة مثلا)، لكن الأكثر صحة هو أن الجماعة تكون في الغالب على حق.
والامر عقلاني (منطقي) بحت، لأن عدة عقول خير من عقل واحد في الأغلب.


(12-05-2011, 02:31 PM)الفكر الحر كتب:  
  • اذا كان الله ليس بداخل الكعبة , فلماذا الكعبة مكعب مفرغ وليس مصمت , وهل يوجد احد بداخلها , ومن هو !
  • لماذا هذا الحجم بالذات ؟
  • لماذا يوجد باب , حيث ان المكعب المصمت او بدون باب يمنع النجاسات وغيرها ان تدخلها
[صورة: 334307447.jpg]

- لماذا تطرح مثل هذه الفكرة رغم أن الأمر واضح فالكعبة بيت وأي بيت يجب ان يكون له باب ويجب ان يكون مفرغا من الداخل.
- ولماذا لا يكون ذلك الحجم بالذات، ولماذا برج إيفل بذلك الحجم ولماذا غرفتك أنت بذلك الحجمن ولم أنت بالحجم الذي أنت عليه؟


(12-05-2011, 03:32 PM)الفكر الحر كتب:  تابع ( سليمان والنملة والهدهد ) :
لماذا لا تفعل تجربة واقعية , بحيث تكلم نملة او هدهد بالعبري وتوثق هذا في الجهات العلمية ؟
جرب ان تترجم بعض الكلمات الى العبري وكلم النمل في المنزل , مثلاً : ( ساحطمنكم ) ولاحظ ردة فعلهم !
تابع ( كعبة السنة والشيعة ) :
لماذا شكل المكعب بالذات , وليس قبة او هرم ... الخ ؟

- تجربة تستحق المحاولة... لو رأيت بعض النمل قد أفعل (بالعربي) ومن يدري قد يفهمني.
الغريب في الأمر ان كتاباتك تدل على أنك ذكي ولكن لا أدري لماذا غفلت عن هذه الامور
سأعطيك مثالا:
الدلافين تتخاطب فيما بينها
الحيتان تتخاطب فيما بينها
هناك تجارب (لعلماء) يقومون فيها بتسجيل أصوات (موجات صوتية) الدلافين والحيتان ويستعملونها لفهم معانيها بالضبط ومن يدري قد نستطيع في يوم ما أن نعرف ونخاطب الدلافين.

كما أن الخفاش يطلق موجات فوق صوتية لا ندركها لتحديد أماكن الأشياء من حوله فكذلك يمكن للنمل أن يتحدث فيما بينه بشكل أو بآخر لدي سليمان القدرة على معرفته.

- لماذا بنا الفراعنة اهرامات ولم يبني مكعبات؟ ولماذا لم تبني عائلتك بيت كرويا (sphere)؟

(12-26-2011, 03:34 AM)الفكر الحر كتب:  (تابع هدهد سليمان) : الهدهد ليس في قائمة اسرع الطيور !!! , وماذا عن عفريت سليمان الاسرع من الهدهد !؟
مجرد مثال : الطائر White-throated Needletail (Hirundapus caudacutus), Needle-tailed Swift , Spine-tailed Swift
سرعته تقريباً 170 كلم في الساعة
بينما سرعة الهدهد تقريبا 30 كلم في الساعة , وبعض المواقع : حوالي 20 الى 30 ميل في الساعة
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- لماذا يملك رجل ما سيارة ودراجة ويركبهما معا؟

خلاصة الأمر هو أن تستخدم بعض النسبية والخيال في طروحاتك وعندها ستجد القليل القليل عما تكتب وعندها ربما سيتبين لك أن الأسئلة التي يجب طرحها والتناقضات التي يجب عرضها ليست مثل هذه الأمور وستجد أن لا مفر لك إلا من أمرين: أن تاتبع حياتك وتنفس عن مكنوناتك بين الحين والآخر أو (أن تاتبع حياتك وتنفس عن مكنوناتك).

للأسف وضع البشر ميؤوس منه.
02-09-2012, 06:57 PM
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RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) - - بواسطة TERMINATOR3 - 01-02-2012, 06:59 PM,
RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) - - بواسطة الفكر الحر - 02-02-2012, 06:52 PM,
RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) - - بواسطة TERMINATOR3 - 02-10-2012, 03:00 PM,
RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) - - بواسطة الفكر الحر - 02-10-2012, 04:13 PM,
RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) - - بواسطة TERMINATOR3 - 01-02-2012, 07:31 PM,
RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) - - بواسطة صلاح الدين بن شبيبة - 02-09-2012, 06:57 PM
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RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) - - بواسطة الفكر الحر - 02-10-2012, 02:57 PM,
RE: - ((( حوار عام مفتوح ))) - - بواسطة الفكر الحر - 02-11-2012, 03:53 PM,

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