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هل الله له القدره على خلق الكون.. بكلمه كن فيكون؟
اقتباس: philalethist كتب/كتبت
يا زميلي دارقطني هل من المنطق بربك أن تقدم لي مثالا من واقع البشر وتقيس الارادة الانسانية والمعاملات بين البشر على الارادة والحكمة الالهية

ألم أقل إن مثالي هذا مع الفارق، وإنما أتيت عليه للتوضيح؟؟!!
لكن رغم ذلك فنرى ما جاء في مثالك:
الميكانيكي كان بامكانه تقديم موعد بساعتين أو ثلاث وهو الوقت اللازم لاصلاح السيارة لكنه عوض ذلك يقدم لك موعد بيومين أو ثلاث. لماذا؟ لكن يبدو لنا أنه قام بعمل عظيم وبالتالي ندفع نحن الأجر شاكرين للميكانيكي الجهد العظيم الذي بذله خلال اليومين أو الثلاث أيام من أجل إصلاح السيارة بينما الحقيقة أنه أصلحها بسرعة وفي ساعات. إذن الميكانيكي خدعنا لكي ندفع له المال وربما زدناه فوق ما طلب لاعتقادنا أنه بذل فوق جهده. هل أفهم من كلامك أن الله كان بامكانه خلق الكون في لحظة لكنه فعل ذلك في 6 ايام لا لشيء إلا لكي نشكر له نحن جهده العظيم. لا أظنك تعني أن الله خدعنا لكن نكون له من الشاكرين مثلما خدعنا الميكانيكي لكي ندفع له مقابل جهده العظيم [/QUOTE]

[size=5]لا يا زميل لم فهمت هذا لا أدري؟؟!!

ألم اقل لك إني أضرب لك مثالا للتوضيح فحسب؟؟!!!

والمثال على أن العامل أجلك لحكمة يراها هو، وهي حكمة خبيثة ماكرة، وأما الله عز وعلا فله حكمة بالغة إلهية لا نعرفها، وما نعرف إلا أنه جعل الخلق في تلك المدة لحكمة إلهية لعلها تكون إشعارا لنا بقيمة الوقت والزمان، وربما لأمور أخرى لا نعلمها...

[SIZE=5]أنت تقول أن اليوم الالهي ليس إلا اصطلاح.
فاصطلاح لأي شيء هو؟
فمثلما جاء في كلامك أن ورقتين ونصف هو اصطلاح لمليونين ونصف و"ولفظ الورقة في الأصل ينسحب على الليرة التي لا تساوي شيئا في أيامنا هذه، وعليه فهو اصطلاح يصطلح عليه أهله" (كلامكَ) فكيف نفهم مصطلح "اليوم" عند الله والذي قال عنه أنه بألف يوم مما نعد.

مثلما شرحتَ لنا مصطلح الورقتين والنصف أرجو منك زميلي الدارقطني أن تشرح لنا مصطلح "يوم".
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[SIZE=5]اليوم المذكور يعادل ستة آلاف سنة، جئت على ذكره لأبين لك أن الخلق ما كان في ستة أيام في مصطلح البشر كما قد تتصور ويتصور غيرك لا أكثر ولا أقل..
11-09-2005, 08:27 AM
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