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أعتقد أن هذا الخطاب من الزميلين على ما فيهما من التعميم هو استفزاز لا يليق بالنادي و لا حواراته .

ما الذي تهدف إليه يا زميلي "أنا مسلم" ؟؟

هل كونك مسلم يمنحك حق إهانة الناس هكذا و التعميم ؟؟؟؟

و مثالك عن لوط الشريف الذي بين الفساق فيه غمز و لمز لا أعرف ما الغاية منه ؟؟؟

و الزميل الآخر أتماكا هل يريد أن يقول أن جميع الناس - باستثناء المسلمين - أنعام و أضل من الأنعام ؟؟؟؟!!!!

نحن نرفض هذا الأسلوب يا عزيزي و إن نص عليه القرآن ، و نرجو أن تبحث عن معنى للآية أو تفسير يخصصها بفئة معينة لا يطلقها على الناس جميعاً من غير المسلمين ، و إن كان ذلك كذلك -وهو ما لا أتمناه - فأرجو أن لا تلوّح لنا بهذه الآية من باب اللياقة ، فنحن لا نسمح أن نهان (اللادينيين و الملحدين) و لا أن يُهان أي عضو في النادي سواء كان مسلماً أو مسيحياً أو من أي ملة ، هذا الخطاب الذي أرى بعض المسلمين يسعون لتأصيله في النادي هنا مرفوض جملة و تفصيلاً ، فالنادي من أجل الحوار ، فمن لا يعرف أصول الحوار و أدب الحوار فليترك هذا النادي و يذهب إلى مكان آخر للشتم أو التحقير .

و نحن دائماً نقف في وجه زملائنا الملحدين قبل غيرهم حين يقدمون نقداً لا يليق خاصة لرموز الدين المقدسة .

أرجو من الزملاء المحترمين في هذا النادي من المسلمين و غيرهم أن ينددوا بهذا الأسلوب الذي لا يسعى إلا إلى الاستفزاز و تأجيج النار في الحوارات و الذهاب بآخر مسكة عقل فينا .

في النهاية أعتذر عن هذه المداخلة الحادة لكن الموضوع استفزني ، فأرجو أن يشجع الجميع على الحوار المهذب الراقي على ما فيه من اختلاف  و أن نترك أساليب التحقير و الاستهزاء و التعميم و غيره ، قدر الإمكان .

أرجو أن نجد من يتصدى لكل من يستخدم لغة مشابهة من زملائه و إخوانه في الملة قبل المخالفين ، حتى يقتنع أن ما يقوم به لا يليق و مستفز و يطيّر ضبانات العقل (كما نقول) .

في النهاية أرحب بعودة الزميل عبدالرحمن ، و أعتذر إن كنت قد نغّصت احتفالية عودته بمداخلتي هذه .



تحياتي


لأول مرة أتفق مع شخص ملحد في معظم كلامه :D

يا جماعة الخير ...............

اخواني المسلمين , يمكنكم طرح هذا السؤال على عالم كبير في البلد الذي تسكنون فيه :

هل يجوز في أسلوب الدعوة البدأ بالمشادة وطرح الايات التي تدين الكفر وأهله ؟ أم أن الاولى هو الدعوة باللين والحكمة الموعظة الحسنة ؟

وانتظر الجواب ببرود أعصاب شديد .


تحياتي .

11-26-2005, 01:05 AM
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