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الاستطلاع الجديد حكايته حكاية وفهمكم كفاية
يقول الزميل العزيز لوجيكال :

اقتباس:العقد المدني مجرد كفالة لحقوق الزوجين في العائلة و حقوق الاولاد و تسجيلاتهم الرسمية، و بهذا فالزواج نفسه ليس العامل الحقيقي و انما الحب المتبادل و الوعد بينهما.

و حسب اللاديني أنه لا يشتري زوجته شراءا كما عند المسلمين. نحن نشتري السيارات و نشتري الكلاب، و لكن النساء عندنا أشخاص لا تباع و تشترى.

أما موضوع "قداسة" الزواج المرتبطة بالعامل "الروحي"، فهذا هراء لا يقوم على أي أساس واقعي. فلا أنت قادر على تعريف "الروح" و لا اثبات وجودها أصلا. نفضّل الواقع على الاوهام يا عزيزي. قداسة الزواج عندنا لا نبنيها على كائن خرافي لا يحل و لا يربط نتوهمه في عقولنا و نعجز عن اثبات وجوده. قداسة الزواج مبنية على واقع ملموس و موجود، هو الزوج و الزوجة و حبهما لبعضهما البعض. بصفتي انسان متزوج، أشهد شخصيا أنه لا آلهتكم و لا كتبكم كلها تزن مثقال ذرة في علاقتي الحقيقية الواقعية مع زوجتي.

حسنا ، اتفقنا على أن العقد بين الزوجين اللادينيين ، هو كأي عقد يكفل الحقوق ، لا وجود لأي قيمة له .

لكنك ، تجعل القيمة فيما قبل هذا العقد ، أي في " الحب " .

حسنا ، أنت الذي تنفي وجود كل ما هو روحاني أو متجاوز للمادة ، وتصفه بأنه خرافي وما إلى ذلك ... هلا حدثتنا عن هذا الحب قليل : ما هو ؟ ومن أين لك أنه موجود ؟ ... إلخ أسئلتك المعتادة .

هل الحب الذي تستخدمه هنا ، رباط متجاوز للطبيعة ، رباط مقدس ؟

أم أنه لا يتجاوز الإحتكاك الجسدي والعملية الجنسية ؟

هل تستطيع إثبات وجود الحب علميا - بمعادلة رياضية ، أو بتجربة مخبرية ؟

شكرا لك سلفا ..
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