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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
على نور الله غير متصل
Banned
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المشاركات: 8,439
الانضمام: Apr 2005
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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
الاخ زيد جلال :
تفضلت بالقول :
.........
هذه هي الأمانة في النقل وعدم التعصب. إلا أننا نخرج من هذا بأن الحديث محل خلاف وشك. وما تطرق إليه الخلاف والشك لا تبنى عليه عقيدة تؤدي بصاحبها إما إلى جنة أو إلى نار. لذا ما تطرق إليه الشك نطرحه جانبًا ونخرج بما اتفق عليه وهي عبارة "من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه" قالها النبي لرجل شكى سيدنا علي للرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم فأراد النبي أن يلفت نظر الرجل إلى أن سيدنا علي واحد من الذين آمنوا الذين يقيمون الصلاة ويؤتون الزكاة وهم راضون غير متكبرين ولا مرائين. وحقًا علينا أن نحب هؤلاء ونقدرهم. الرسول يحبب المسلمين فيما بينهم.
.........
الجواب:
ما هذا الكلام يا اخى العزيز :
اذا وجد حديث صحيح و كذلك له طرق باسانيد ضعيفة فانت تعتبر ذلك اختلاف
سبحان الله
ان الضعيف يقوى الصحيح ان وجد
و كيف خرجت بنتيجة ان ما ناخذه من هذه الاحاديث فقط :
من كنت مولاى فعلى مولاه .
و اين الباقى ؟؟؟؟
على الرغم من ان هذه العبارة لوحدها كافية الا اننى ساعرض عليك احاديث صحيحة تحتوى على التكملة :

كنز العمال الإصدار 2.01 - للمتقي الهندي
المجلد الثالث عشر >> تتمة فضائل علي رضي الله عنه


36486- عن عمير بن سعد قال: شهدت عليا على المنبر ناشد أصحاب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم من سمع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يوم غدير خم يقول ما قال فيشهد، فقام اثنا عشر رجلا منهم أبو هريرة وأبو سعيد وأنس بن مالك (طس)
(أورده الهيثمي في مجمع الزوائد (9/108) وقال رواه الطبراني في الأوسط وإسناده حسن. ص).

كنز العمال الإصدار 2.01 - للمتقي الهندي
المجلد الثالث عشر >> تتمة فضائل علي رضي الله عنه


36487- عن إسحاق عن عمرو ذي مر وسعيد بن وهب وزيد بن يثيع قالوا: سمعنا عليا يقول: نشدت الله رجلا سمع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول يوم غدير خم ما قال لما قام، فقام ثلاثة عشر رجلا فشهدوا أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: ألست أولى بالمؤمنين من أنفسهم؟ قالوا: بلى يا رسول قال فأخذ بيد علي قال: من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه، اللهم! وال من والاه، وعاد من عاداه، وأحب من أحبه، وأبغض من أبغضه، وأنصر من نصره، وأخذل من خذله.
البزار وابن جرير والخلعي في الخلعيات؛ قال الهيثمي: رجال إسناده ثقات، قال ابن حجر: ولكنهم شيعة.


مجمع الزوائد. الإصدار 2.05 - للحافظ الهيثمي
المجلد التاسع. >> 37. كتاب المناقب >> 4. (أبواب) مناقب علي بن أبي طالب رضي الله عنه. >> 5. باب قوله صلى الله عليه وسلم: "من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه
".

14610- عن رباح بن الحارث قال: جاء رهط إلى علي بالرحبة قالوا: السلام عليك يا مولانا، فقال: كيف أكون مولاكم وأنتم قوم عرب؟ قالوا: سمعنا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يوم غدير خم يقول:
"من كنت مولاه فهذا مولاه".
قال رباح: فلما مضوا تبعتهم فقلت: من هؤلاء؟ قالوا: نفر من الأنصار فيهم أبو أيوب الأنصاري.
رواه أحمد والطبراني إلا أنه قال: قالوا: سمعنا رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول:
"من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه، اللهم وال من والاه وعاد من عاداه".
وهذا أبو أيوب بيننا، فحسر أبو أيوب العمامة عن وجهه ثم قال: سمعت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يقول:
"من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه، اللهم وال من والاه وعاد من عاداه".
ص.129
ورجال أحمد ثقات.



مجمع الزوائد. الإصدار 2.05 - للحافظ الهيثمي
المجلد التاسع. >> 37. كتاب المناقب >> 4. (أبواب) مناقب علي بن أبي طالب رضي الله عنه. >> 5. باب قوله صلى الله عليه وسلم: "من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه".


14611- وعن عمر وذي مر وزيد بن أرقم قالا: خطب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يوم غدير خم فقال:
"من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه، اللهم وال من والاه وعاد من عاداه، وانصر من نصره وأعن من أعانه".
قلت: لزيد بن أرقم عند الترمذي: "من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه". فقط.
رواه الطبراني وأحمد عن زيد وحده باختصار إلا أنه قال في أوله: نزلنا مع رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم بواد يقال له: خم، فأمر بالصلاة فصلاها بهجير، قال: فخطب وظلل على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم على شجرة من الشمس فقال: "ألستم تعلمون - أو ألستم تشهدون - أني أولى بكل مؤمن من نفسه؟". قالوا: بلى. فذكر نحوه.
والبزار وفيه ميمون أبو عبد الله البصري وثقه ابن حبان وضعفه جماعة، وبقية رجاله ثقات.


فما قولك الان يا اخى الفاضل ؟؟؟؟؟

الان
عندنا اية الولاية
و بسند صحيح اثبت انها نزلت فى الامام على عليه السلام .

و رواية غدير خم و الامر بموالاة الامام على عليه السلام و نصرته و معاداة من يعاديه بكامل النص اثبت لك صحة اسانيدها فى روايات صحيحة .

ما قولك الان ؟؟؟؟؟
هل بقى اعتراض بارك الله فيك ؟؟؟

اللهم صل على محمد و ال محمد
لا فتى الا على و لا سيف الا ذو الفقار

03-09-2006, 07:34 PM
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