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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
عندما قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه و آله و سلم في حق علي عليه السلام :

من كنت مولاه فهذا علي مولاه ...

فسرتم المعنى أنها في النصرة و المحبة ...
على ذلك , فمن أوامر رسول الله صلى الله عليه و آله و سلم لأمته هي نصرة أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام !!
هل هذا صحيح ؟
تكملة الحديث (اللهم والي من والاه وعادي من عاده وانصر من نصره واخذل من خذله).
هذا جزء من الحديث وثابت اخرجه جمع كبير من العلماء منهم النسائي في الخصائص ص71 المكتبة العصرية,وابن ابي عاصم في السنة ص630 المكتب الاسلامي,والطبراني في الكبير 5/166,دار احياء التراث العربي والحاكم في المستدرك:3/109,دار المعرفة
قال الحاكم:هذا حديث صحيح على شرط الشيخين ولم يخرجاه بطوله
واورده ابن كثير في البداية والنهاية وقال:قال شيخنا ابو عبدالله الذهبي : وهذا حديث صحيح ,البداية والنهاية:5/228-229, مؤسسة التاريخ العربي
فهل دعاء النبي صلى الله عليه وآله حديث خبري أيضا وليس إنشائي
هل تعتقدون أن الرسول صلى الله عليه وآله والذي لاينطق عن الهوى يوزع المدح جزافا دون وجه حق

او كيف يكون نصف الحديث خبريا على تقديركم والنصف الثاني انشائيا
سنعتبر كما قلت اننا نسلم جدلا بتفسيركم لكلمة مولى (من كنت مولاه فعلي مولاه )
ولنبقى في اقل المراتب التي تفهمونها من الحديث فهل تؤمنون ان من ترك نصرة امير المؤمنين علي بن ابي طالب ( عليه السلام ) قد خالف رسول الله ( صلوات الله عليه و اله ) أم لا ..

واذا كان دعاء رسول الله (ص) بحق علي مستجابا
فما حكم من يقاتل أمير المؤمنين علي بن ابي طالب
وما حكم من يخذله ولا ينصره بموجب هذا الدعاء المستجاب؟

فالنبي صلى الله عليه واله لم يقف دعاؤه عند نصرة من ينصر الامام علي عليه السلام بل بخذلان من يخذله
ويدخل تحت الخذلان افراد لايسركم ان يشملهم الدعاء الا ان تقولوا بان من قاتل عليا عليه السلام ليس خاذلا له !!!!
طبعا كل الكلام مبتني على التنزل وادعاء ان الحديث يدل على النصرة
لأنه مثلما كان يعمل رسول الله صلى الله عليه و آله و سلم على نصرة الله و المؤمنين
فكذلك أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام يعمل على نصرة الله و المؤمنين ..
و ليس كل احد له هذه الخصوصية !!
و إلا هل هناك دليل خلاف ذلك ؟
03-12-2006, 01:14 PM
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