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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
على نور الله غير متصل
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مشاركة: #95
من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
اشكرك اخى الفاضل للمتابعة و ارجو ان لا اكون قد اثقلت .
و اذا ارتايت اخى الفاضل تجريحا لا سمح الله فنبهنى لاتوقف لاننا اخوة يجب ان نحترم بعضنا بعضا .

تفضلت بالقول :
...........
وأما ابن زين العابدين محمد بن على بن الحسين الملقب بالباقر - الإمام الخامس المعصوم:
"عن أبى عبد الله الجعفي عن عروة بن عبد الله قال: سألت أبا جعفر محمد بن علي عليهما السلام عن حلية السيف؟ فقال: لا بأس به، قد حلى أبو بكر الصديق سيفه، قال: قلت: وتقول الصديق؟ فوثب وثبة، واستقبل القبلة، فقال: نعم الصديق، فمن لم يقل له الصديق فلا صدق الله له قولاً في الدنيا والآخرة" ["كشف الغمة" ج2 ص147].
............
الجواب:
يا اخى الفاضل
تستعمل المواقع المشنعة على الشيعة هذه الرواية من (كشف الغمة ) لانها ناقصة النقل و هى مرسلة لا سند لها .
و لكنها وردت بتفصيل اكبر فى الكافى بسند ضعيف ففيها المعلى بن محمد وهو ضعيف عند مشهور علماء الإمامية ، ولكن ذهب السيد الخوئي إلى وثاقته .
على كل حال
بفرض صحة الرواية فى الكافى على توثيق الخوئى
فان الرواية بالكافى تثبت عكس ما تفضلت به لانه تم اكمالها .
فاسمح لى بعرض تفصيلها عليك و ارجو التركيز على اخرها
و قبل ذلك فارجو ان تعلم ان ظرف الامام فى هذا العصر كان محاطا بالعيون و الترصد و كان يصدر اوامره للشيعة بضرورة التقية حفاظا على حياتهم و اعراضهم و اموالهم .
الرواية كما جاءت فى الكافى :
71 - الحسين بن محمد الأشعري ، عن معلى بن محمد ، عن الوشاء ، عن أبان بن عثمان ، عن أبي بصير قال : كنت جالساً عند أبي عبدالله (ع) إذ دخلت علينا أم خالد التي كان قطعها يوسف بن عمر ، تستأذن عليه . فقال أبوعبد الله ( ع ) : أيسرك أن تسمع كلامها ) . انتهى .
و انت عندما نقلت الرواية من الموقع المشنع على الشيعة بالطبع لم تعلم انهم قد قصوا نهاية الرواية و لم يكملوها لانها تشطب هدفهم .

ملاحظة :
الرواية كما نقلتها اخى الفاضل ناقصة هى :
وروى الكليني عن أبي بصير، قال: "كنت جالساً عند أبي عبد الله (الإمام السادس)، إذ دخلت علينا أم خالد تستأذن عليه (أي أبي عبد الله) فقال: أبو عبد الله: أيسرك أن تسمع كلامها، قال: قلت: نعم، فأذن لها، قال: فأجلسني معه على الطنفسة، قال: ثم دخلت فتكلمت فإذا امرأة بليغة، فسألته عنهما، (عن أبي بكر وعمر) فقال لها: توليهما قالت: فأقول لربي إذا لقيته إنك أمرتني بولايتهما، قال: نعم" (الروضة من الكافي. ج8. ص101. ط إيران. تحت عنوان "حديث أبي بصير مع المرأة).


فتامل الرواية رعاك الله .

يتبع ان شاء الله

اللهم صل على محمد و ال محمد
لا فتى الا على و لا سيف الا ذو الفقار





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