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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
على نور الله غير متصل
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الانضمام: Apr 2005
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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
تفضلت بالقول :
..............
والإمام علي هو أول قرشي يسمي أولاده أبا بكر وعمر وعثمان.

وكذلك الحسن بن علي سمَّى أبناءه : أبا بكر وعبدالرحمن وطلحة وعبيدالله.(التنبيه والإشراف للمسعودي الشيعي. ص 263 + الإرشاد للمفيد ص 194 + منتهى الآمال ج1 ص 240 + عمدة الطالب ص 81 + جلاء العيون للمجلسي ص 582 + معجم رجال الحديث للخوئي ج13. ص29 + كشف الغمة. ج2. ص 201 + مقاتل الطالبيين لأبي الفرج الأصبهاني الشيعي. ص 188. طبعة دار المعرفة)

وموسى الكاظم سمى ابنته عائشة، وكذلك الإمام المعصوم علي الهادي. (كشف الغمة للأربلي. ج3. ص 26 + الإرشاد للمفيد. ج2. ص 302، 312 + الفصول المهمة. ص 242)

والحسن بن علي سمَّى ابناه أبا بكر وعمر

وهذا موسى بن جعفر الملقب بالكاظم عليه السلام سمى أحد أبنائه، أبا بكر، وآخر سماه: عمر، وسمى إحدى بناته: عائشة، وأخرى: أم سلمة. (كشف الغمة. ج3. ص 29).

هل يستقيم هذا مع ما تمتليء به كتب الشيعة من تطاول على الصحابة وعلى أمهات المؤمنين؟؟؟!!! هل أسمي أبنائي بأسماء الكافرين الجاحدين الظالمين؟؟؟!!! هل أسمي ابنتي باسم امرأة مشبوهة؟؟؟!!! وكيف يمدحهم سيدنا علي ويشهد لهم بالصلاح والحسنى؟؟؟!!!
ألا يحرك ذلك شيئًا في أذهاننا تجاه الروايات التي تقول عكس هذا؟؟؟!!!
..............
الجواب:
اخى الفاضل
عند دراسة ما تفضلت به فى موضوع التسميات علينا ان ندقق فى النقاط التالية لنصل الى الحقيقة :
1. هل من عادة العرب فى ذلك الوقت ان تسمى ابناءها باسماء من يحبونهم من شخصيات و يمتنعوا عن تسمية ابنائهم بمن يبغضونهم من شخصيات ؟؟؟؟
الجواب: كلا , اذ ان هذه عادة مستحدثة عند العرب لم تكن معلومة عندهم و لم تكن من عاداتهم .
2. هل هذه الاسماء مختصة بشخصيات معينة ام انها عامة فى ذلك الوقت ؟؟؟؟
الجواب: نجدها اسماء عامة منتشرة بين العرب و بذلك لا يقوم بها دليل .
للتوضيح :
فى عصرنا هذا
لو سمى رجل ابنه (حسنى) فان ذلك ليس دليلا ابدا على حب هذا الرجل للرئيس المصرى .
لماذا ؟؟؟ لان هذا الاسم عام و منتشر فى عصرنا .
طيب
ماذا لو سمى رجل ابنه باسم (صدام)؟؟؟
طبعا لن يتطرق الشك الى اى انسان ان الرجل محب او معجب بالمجرم صدام (و ربما لا يكون كذلك بل مجرد تسمية و هو احتمال ضئيل طبعا)
بعد هذه المقدمة تفضل معى نستعرض شخصيات معروفة من الصحابة تسمت بهذه الاسماء لنرى مدى انتشارها و انه لا دليل منها على طبيعة العلاقة الحسنة بتسمية الابناء بها :

كنية أبي بكر :

1 ـ أبو بكر بن شعوب الليثي واسمه شداد

2 ـ أبو بكر (عبد الله بن الزبير)

الصحابة الذين كان اسمهم عمر

1 ـ عمر اليماني

2 ـ عمر بن الحكم السلمي

3 ـ عمر بن سراقة (ممن شهد بدراً)

4 ـ عمر بن سعد (أبو كبشة الانماري)

5 ـ عمر بن سفيان بن عبد الأسد (ممن هاجر إلى الحبشة)

6 ـ عمر بن عمير بن عدي الأنصاري

7 ـ عمر بن عوف النخعي

8 ـ عمر بن يزيد الكعبي

9 ـ عمر بن عمرو الليثي

10 ـ عمر بن منسوب

11 ـ عمر بن لاحق

12 ـ عمر بن مالك

13 ـ عمر بن مالك القرشي الزهري (ابن عم والد سعد بن أبي الوقاص)

14 ـ عمر بن معاوية الغاضري

15 ـ عمر الأسلمي

16 ـ عمر بن أبي سلمة (ربيب النبي «صلى الله عليه وآله وسلّم» أمه أم سلمة)

17 ـ عمر الخثعمي

ملاحظة :ان لم تخنى الذاكرة فهاشم جد الرسول من اسمائه عمر.

أسماء الصحابة ممن كان اسمهم عثمان

1 ـ عثمان بن أبي الجهم الأسلمي

2 ـ عثمان بن حكيم

3 ـ عثمان بن حميد

4 ـ عثمان بن حنيف

5 ـ عثمان بن ربيعة بن اهبان (هاجر إلى الحبشة)

6 ـ عثمان بن ربيعة الثقفي

7 ـ عثمان بن سعيد بن أحمر الأنصاري

8 ـ عثمان بن شماس المخزومي

9 ـ عثمان بن طلحة بن أبي طلحة

10 ـ عثمان بن أبي العاص

11 ـ عثمان بن عمار (والد أبي بكر)

12 ـ عثمان بن عبد غنم الفهري (هاجر إلى الحبشة)

13 ـ عثمان بن عبيد الله التميمي

14 ـ عثمان بن عثمان الثقفي

15 ـ عثمان بن عمرو (شهد بدرا)

16 ـ عثمان بن مظعون (الصحابي الجليل الذي قبّله النبي «صلى الله عليه وآله وسلّم» وهو ميت)
و هكذا فاننى ذكرت لك الصحابة و اغضضنا النظر عن الكفار الذين كانوا يحملون هذه الاسماء فتامل رعاك الله مقدار انتشار هذه الاسماء و عموميتها.
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وحتى لو شككنا إنها يمكن أن تدل على المحبة بين الإمام «عليه السلام» وبين الخلفاء ، فاعتقد أن القوم لا يشكون بالعداوة والبغضاء القائمة بين الإمام السجاد «عليه السلام» وبين عبيد الله بين زياد قاتل الإمام الحسين «عليه السلام» وهذه العداوة لم تمنع من أن يسمي الإمام السجاد «عليه السلام» أحد أولاده باسم (عبيد الله) ، وكذلك لا يشكون في العداوة والبغضاء بين الإمام الكاظم «عليه السلام» وبين هارون الرشيد وهذه العداوة لم تمنع من أن يسمي الإمام «عليه السلام» أحد أولاده باسم هارون .

فهذه الأسماء ليست ملكاً لأحد ولا حكرا على شخص ، وإطلالة بسيطة على أسماء أصحاب الأئمة «عليهم السلام» لوجدنا هناك الكثير الكثير من أصحاب الأئمة «عليهم السلام» ممن كان اسمهم معاوية ويزيد ومروان ... مع شدة وعظمة العداوة بين أصحاب هذه الأسماء وبين آل محمّد «صلى الله عليه وآله وسلّم» .

ويلفت انتباهنا هنا أن الأئمة «عليهم السلام» لم يطلبوا من أصحابهم تغيير هذه الأسماء باعتبار أن بعض مبغضي آل محمّد «صلى الله عليه وآله وسلّم» قد تسمى بهذه الأسماء ، علماً أن الروايات التي وردت عن أهل البيت «عليهم السلام» طلبت من شيعتهم أن لا يسموا أولادهم كاسم (ملك أو حكم) وذلك لمبغوضيتها لملاكات وأسباب لا تتعلق بأفراد قد تسموا بها من قبل .
ملاحظة:تم اقتباس الاسماء و المقطع بين الخطين من موقع مركز الابحاث العقائدية .
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و اخيرا فان اصرت بعض المواقع على هذا الدليل فعندها اطرح عليهم سؤالا ملزما لهم بما الزموا به انفسهم :
لماذا لم يسمى ابو بكر و عمر و عثمان ابناءهم باسماء اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟
و هى اسماء خاصة غير عامة بين العرب فى ذلك الوقت كما انها سنة الرسول الاعظم اذ سمى فاطمة و الحسن و الحسين عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟
يتبع ان شاء الله

اللهم صل على محمد و ال محمد
لا فتى الا على و لا سيف الا ذو الفقار





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