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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
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واول من اسلم من الانصار هم الذين بايعوا الرسول فى مكة و منهم سعد بن الصامت الذى رفض بيعة ابى بكر و عمر و تم قتله فى الشام بعد ان نفاه عمر اليها.
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المسلم حر في اختيار حاكمه وحر في إعلان رفضه للحاكم ما دام هذا رفض بالطريقة المتحضرة أي السلمية لا برفع السلاح. أما قتل سيدنا سعد بن عبادة فأنت ذكرتَ من قبل أنك لا دليل معك على هذا الكلام. فلم تسوقه هنا في شكل حقيقة؟؟؟!!!

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القران يشهد بانهم لم ينصروه فى احد و لم ينصروه فى حنين و لم ينصروه فى الغار و لم ينصروه عندما طلبهم عمرو بن ود فى غزوة الخندق للمبارزة
و فى جميع هذه المواطن فان النصرة حققها الامام على عليه السلام فهو المقصود بالاية
فهو الوحيد الذى لم يتخلف عن نصرة الرسول الاعظم فى اى موطن من المواطن.
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فلماذا لم ينصر نفسه على معاوية ويقضي على جيشه كما قضى رسول الله وصحابته على كفر قريش ودانت لهم الجزيرة العربية ثم أسقطوا امبراطورتي الروم والفرس؟؟؟!!! لماذا اضطر أمير المؤنين (ع) للجوء لجيش مرتزقة ومعه إمامان معصومان (الحسن والحسن) (ثلاثة آئمة في وقت واحد)؟؟؟!!! ثم ندم أن لجأ إليهم وأكد أنه محارب كبير منذ العشرينات من عمره ولكن جيشه متمرد جبان يحب الحياة ويكره الموت على حد وصفك. أي أن سيدنا علي بحاجة لجيش لكي ينتصر. وقد أوردتُ لك ذلك من قبل في نهج البلاغة. لا يمكن أن يحرز الهدف بمفرده كما ضربت لك مثالًا من قبل بفريق كرة قدم.

كما أن قول الله تعالى

{لَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللّهُ فِي مَوَاطِنَ كَثِيرَةٍ وَيَوْمَ حُنَيْنٍ .... (25) سورة التوبة

نصر من؟! نصر المسلمين. نصر جيش محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم. الله لا ينصر المنافقين ولا المشركين ولا الكافرين حتى لو كان بينهم رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم. لذلك لم ينصر الله جيش سيدنا علي ولا جيش الحسين لأنهم –أقصد الجنود- منافقين في العقيدة الشيعية. إمامان معصومان كلامهما هو كلام الرسول هو كلام الله عز وجل في العقيدة الشيعية ولم ينتصرا.

لماذا؟

لأن الجيش منافق، الجنود مرتزقة، لا إخلاص لله.

وانتصر محمد عليه الصلاة والسلام.

لماذا

لأنه جيش من تربية رسول الله محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم.

جيش هدية من الله لخاتم النبيين وأكرم المرسلين.

{وَإِن يُرِيدُواْ أَن يَخْدَعُوكَ فَإِنَّ حَسْبَكَ اللّهُ هُوَ الَّذِيَ أَيَّدَكَ بِنَصْرِهِ وَبِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ} (62) سورة الأنفال

{وَأَلَّفَ بَيْنَ قُلُوبِهِمْ لَوْ أَنفَقْتَ مَا فِي الأَرْضِ جَمِيعاً مَّا أَلَّفَتْ بَيْنَ قُلُوبِهِمْ وَلَكِنَّ اللّهَ أَلَّفَ بَيْنَهُمْ إِنَّهُ عَزِيزٌ حَكِيمٌ} (63) سورة الأنفال

أنت تدرك أن ما قلتَه أنت خطأ لذلك تقول على استحياء في البداية وبإصرار في النهاية:

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نعم بعض الانصار و بعض المهاجرين نصروه فى بعض المواطن مشاركة مع الامام على عليه السلام ولكن النصرة فى جميع المواطن كانت من الامام على عليه السلام وهو الوحيد الذى انطبق عليه الشرط و لم ينطبق على غيره ابدا.
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هذا مرفوض بالمرة. ليس مني بالطبع ولكن من أي تحليل عسكري. كلامك يسقط إذا طرحناه أمام أي محلل عسكري. ببساطة سيقول لك: لماذا لم ينصر نفسه ويقضي على معاوية ما دام هو السوبرمان الذي نصر غيره؟؟؟!!! لماذا ندم على أن جيشه مجموعة من المرتزقة المنافقين الذين لا يؤمنون بعقيدة إلا القتال مع من يدفع أكثر؟؟؟!!!

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سالتك: هل تعرف اسم سيد من سادات قريش او من سادات العرب قتله ابو بكر او عمر بن الخطاب او عثمان ؟؟؟؟؟؟
هؤلاء الثلاثة بالذات لم يقتلوا فارسا واحدا فى الاسلام
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رددت عليك من قبل. وقلت لك أن المراجع والمصادر تكاد لا تذكر أن الرسول قتل فارسًا واحدًا. الجيش فريق يعمل كخلية نحل ويوزن بأدائه العام لا بأداء أفراده كلٌّ على حدة. الرسول لم تذكر المراجع أنه قتل أي فارس تقريبًا ومع ذلك نجح. والإمام علي في رأيك هو الذي قتل وقتل وقتل ومع ذلك فشل أمام معاوية ومعه إمامان معصومان (الحسن والحسين)، وفشل أبناؤه أمام أبناء معاوية. لا أقول ذلك تحيزًا لأنني أرى أن سيدنا معاوية أخطأ بالفعل. إلا أنني أقول هذا من وجهة نظر عسكرية تاريخية.

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بينما معظم سادة قريش قتلهم الامام على عليه السلام او حمزة عليه السلام او الهاشميون او المستضعفون من المسلمين كعمار و بلال و هؤلاء هم الاشداء على الكفار.
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إذن لم يكن سيدنا علي الوحيد يا أخي!!! ولا يعرف العلم الحديث مقياسك هذا. إنما يعرف شيئًا واحدًا فقط: هل الجيش (أو اللواء من الجيش ...الخ) حقق هدفه أم لا؟ وبناء على هذا يضعون نتيجة النجاح والفشل. لا ينظرون لكل جندي بمفرده. بل هو أداء الفريق، العمل الجماعي. لذا انتصر سيدنا محمد ونجح في مهمته وبلغ رسالته، والعكس تمامًا مع سيدنا علي وأولاده رضي الله عنهم.
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