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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
ولننظر في خبرين يتعلق بهما كتاب سليم بن قيس أو أيًّا كان اسمه:

[CENTER][size=5]الخبر الأول [/CENTER][/size]
من كتاب سليم:

[CENTER]الرواية الأولى[/CENTER]

" فلما جمعه (سيدنا علي جمع القرآن) كله وكتبه بيده على تنزيله وتأويله والناسخ منه والمنسوخ، بعث إليه أبو بكر أن اخرج فبايع. فبعث إليه علي عليه السلام: (إني لمشغول وقد آليت نفسي يمينا أن لا أرتدي رداء إلا للصلاة حتى أؤلف القرآن وأجمعه).
فسكتوا عنه أياما فجمعه في ثوب واحد وختمه، ثم خرج إلى الناس وهم مجتمعون مع أبي بكر في مسجد رسول الله. فنادى علي عليه السلام بأعلى صوته:
(يا أيها الناس، إني لم أزل منذ قبض رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله مشغولا بغسله ثم بالقرآن حتى جمعته كله في هذا الثوب الواحد. فلم ينزل الله تعالى على رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله آية إلا وقد جمعتها، وليست منه آية إلا وقد جمعتها وليست منه آية إلا وقد أقرأنيها رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وعلمني تأويلها)....
ثم قال لهم علي عليه السلام: لئلا تقولوا يوم القيامة إني لم أدعكم إلى نصرتي ولم أذكركم حقي، ولم أدعكم إلى كتاب الله من فاتحته إلى خاتمته.
فقال عمر: ما أغنانا ما معنا من القرآن عما تدعونا إليه ثم دخل علي عليه السلام بيته. (كتاب سليم بن قيس. ص 146، 147).....

http://aqaed.com/shialib/books/02/solaim_a...olaim_a-08.html

يا أبا الحسن، شئ أريد أن أسألك عنه: رأيتك خرجت بثوب مختوم عليه فقلت: (يا أيها الناس، إني لم أزل مشغولا برسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله، بغسله وتكفينه ودفنه. ثم شغلت بكتاب الله حتى جمعته، فهذا كتاب الله مجموعا لم يسقط منه حرف)، فلم أر ذلك الكتاب الذي كتبت وألفت.
ولقد رأيت عمر بعث إليك - حين استخلف - أن ابعث به إلي، فأبيت أن تفعل. فدعا عمر الناس، فإذا شهد اثنان على آية قرآن كتبها وما لم يشهد عليها غير رجل واحد رماها ولم يكتبه وقد قال عمر - وأنا أسمع -: (إنه قد قتل يوم اليمامة رجال كانوا يقرؤون قرآنا لا يقرأه غيرهم فذهب)، وقد جاءت شاة إلى صحيفة - وكتاب عمر يكتبون - فأكلتها وذهب ما فيها، والكاتب يومئذ عثمان فما تقولون؟
وسمعت عمر يقول وأصحابه الذين ألفوا ما كتبوا على عهد عثمان: (إن الأحزاب كانت تعدل سورة البقرة، والنور ستون ومائة آية، والحجرات تسعون آية) فما هذا؟
وما يمنعك - يرحمك الله - أن تخرج إليهم ما قد ألفت للناس؟
وقد شهدت عثمان حين أخذ ما ألف عمر فجمع له الكتاب وحمل الناس على قراءة واحدة ومزق مصحف أبي بن كعب وابن مسعود وأحرقهما بالنار. فما هذا؟
فقال أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام: يا طلحة، إن كل آية أنزلها الله في كتابه على محمد صلى الله عليه وآله عندي بإملاء رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله وخطي بيدي، وتأويل كل آية أنزلها الله على محمد صلى الله عليه وآله وكل حلال أو حرام أو حد أو حكم أو أي شئ تحتاج إليه الأمة إلى يوم القيامة عندي مكتوب بإملاء رسول الله وخط يدي حتى أرش الخدش.
قال طلحة: كل شئ من صغير أو كبير أو خاص أو عام، كان أو يكون إلى يوم القيامة فهو مكتوب عندك؟
قال: نعم، وسوى ذلك أن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وآله أسر إلي في مرضه مفتاح ألف باب من العلم يفتح كل باب ألف باب. ولو أن الأمة منذ قبض الله نبيه اتبعوني وأطاعوني لأكلوا من فوقهم ومن تحت أرجلهم رغدا إلى يوم القيامة. (كتاب سليم بن قيس. ص 210، 211)

http://aqaed.com/shialib/books/02/solaim_a...olaim_a-11.html

هنا سيدنا عمر هو الذي يرفض الاحتكام إلى كتاب الله ويرفض القرآن الكريم كما أنزله الله على سيدنا محمد (ص) وأسر به إلى علي. وهنا فضل سيدنا عمر أن يجمع القرآن من صدور الحفظة وشهادة المهاجرين والأنصار.

[CENTER]الرواية الثانية[/CENTER]
من كتاب الاحتجاج للطبرسي من علماء القرن السادس:

يقول الطبرسي"

"فلما فتحه (فتح قرآن علي) أبو بكر خرج في أول صفحة فضائح القوم" [الاحتجاج. ص 156].

يقول الطبرسي:

"ثم أحضروا زيد بن ثابت - وكان قارئاً للقرآن - فقال له عمر: إن علياً جاء بالقرآن وفيه فضائح المهاجرين والأنصار وقد رأينا أن نؤلف القرآن (في حين أن رواية سليم تشير إلى أن القرآن كان مجموعاً عند أبي بكر وعمر) ونسقط منه ما كان فضيحة وهتكاً للمهاجرين والأنصار، فأجابه زيد إلى ذلك ثم قال: فإن أنا فرغت من القرآن على ما سألتهم وأظهر علي القرآن الذي ألفه أليس قد بطل كل ما عملتهم؟ فقال عمر: فما الحيلة؟ قال زيد: أنتم أعلم بالحيلة، فقال عمر: ما حيلته دون أن نقتله ونستريح منه، فدبر في قتله" [الاحتجاج. ص 156. ط: الأعلمي].

ثم يورد الطبرسي في موضع آخر محاولة القتل المزعومة وتكليف خالد بذلك وأن أبا بكر تأسف وتراجع عن هذه المؤامرة خشية عواقبها فقال وهو في الصلاة: "لا تقتله يا خالد" [الاحتجاج: ص 89 -90 ط: الأعلمي].

ثم تواصل القصة فصولها فتذكر محاولة عمر لاستدراج علي وخداعه بدعوته إحضار القرآن حتى يعملوا به، وذلك محاولة عن عمر لتحريف مصحف علي، وأن علياً رفض ذلك، وأن عمر سأله متى أوان ظهوره؟ فقال: إنه سيظهر مع القائم من ولدي يظهره ويحمل الناس عليه فتجري السنة به" [الاحتجاج: 1/255-228 ط: النجف، ص: 155-156من ط: الأعلمي. بيروت].

والروايتان تتحدثان عما وقع بعد وفاة النبي مباشرة ولا مجال للقول انهما وقعتا في زمنين مختلفين.

والسؤال الذي لا إجابة له هو مادامت محاولتهم لقتل علي أخفقت، وتدبيرهم لتحريف مصحفه قد فشلت، فلماذا لم يخرج علي القرآن الذي معه؟! وإذا كان يخشى منهم لأن السلطة بأيديهم، لماذا لم يخرجه أثناء خلافته، لماذا يتسبب في بقاء الأمة تائهة حائرة، ولماذا يتستر على خيانة الخائن وتحريف المحرف، ومن أقر خائناً على خيانته كان كفاعلها؟ يجيب على ذلك عالم الشيعة نعمة الله الجزائري في الأنوار فيذكر أن عليًّا فضّل مجاملة من سبقه على هداية الأمة. فيقول:

"ولما جلس أمير المؤمنين - عليه السلام - على سرير الخلافة لم يتمكن من إظهار ذلك القرآن وإخفاء هذا لما فيه من إظهار الشنعة على ما سبقه.

إذن ليست التقية وحدها هي السبب في إخفاء هذا الدين الشيعي الذي يظل عزيزًا ما دام في الظلام، ويصاب بالذل وينتهي إذا خرج للنور. أي دين هذا؟؟؟!!!

إن الراوية عند سليم لا تطعن في كتاب الله بطريقة صريحة، بل تؤكد بأن كل ما في القرأن الكريم الذي بين أيدينا قرآن، وأن فيه بيان حق أهل البيت وفرض طاعتهم، على حين أننا نجد روايات أخر تسير في ركاب رواية الطبرسي تناقض هذا، وتقول: "لولا أنه زيد في كتاب الله ونقص منه لما خفي حقنا على ذي حجى" [البرهان: مقدمة ص 37، بحار الأنوار: 19/30، تفسير الصافي: 1/41]، وتقول: "لو قرئ القرآن كما أنزل لألفينا فيه مسمين" [تفسير العياشي: 1/13، بحار الأنوار: 92/55، تفسير الصافي: 1/41، اللوامع النورانية: ص 547]

والآن نصدق رواية سليم أم روايات الطبرسي ومن اقتدى به؟؟؟!!!
04-08-2006, 08:30 PM
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