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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
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من هم اهل البيت عليهم السلام ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
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الم يعلموا :
من كنت مولاه فعلى مولاه
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الجيش بدأوا تجميعه بمجرد استشهاد سيدنا عثمان رضي الله عنه للانتقام ممن غزا المدينة وانتهك الحرمات وروع الآمنين. والسيدة عائشة تصرفت على أساس أنها أم للمؤمنين والمسلمين فأرادت الإصلاح. وقد اعتذرت عن هذا واعتذر سيدنا علي لله عز وجل. الجميع (سيدنا علي وأتباعه والسيدة عائشة وأتباعها) كان هدفهم الخير، كلٌّ من وجهة نظره. أما "من كنتٌ مولاه فعلي مولاه" فلم يفهموها بالطريقة التي تفهمها أنت. وإنما هذا لإشاعة الحب بين المسلمين. وقد خاطب الرسول سيدنا سلمان فقال له "أنت مولانا". سيدنا علي اعترف أنه أخطا بدليل أن سيدنا الحسن أخذ بعكس ما فعله أبوه وصالح معاوية وبايعه. والاثنان إمامان معصومان. فهي وجهات نظر في النهاية واجتهاد منهم.

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و لو انهم طبقوا اى معنى من معانى الموالاة لما جمعوا جيشا و خرجوا عن ارادة الامام على عليه السلام .
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لم يخرجوا عن إرادة الإمام بل وقع الصلح من أول جولة مفاوضات كما رأيت لأن الطرفين يريدان الصالح العام.

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من المضحك ان يكون قتلة عثمان بين صفوف عائشة
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أين مرجعك الذي يقول أنهم كانوا في جيش السيدة عائشة؟

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و لماذا عزلوا من ولاه الخليفة الشرعى واليا على البصرة.
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يقول ابن كثير في البداية والنهاية ج7 (مرجعك):

وبعث طلحة والزبير إلى عثمان بن حنيف أن يخرج إليهما فأبى، فجمعا الرجال في ليلة مظلمة وشهدا بهم صلاة العشاء في المسجد الجامع، ولم يخرج عثمان بن حنيف تلك الليلة، فصلى بالناس عبد الرحمن بن عتاب بن أسيد، ووقع من رعاع الناس من أهل البصرة كلام وضرب، فقتل منهم نحوا أربعين رجلا، ودخل الناس وولوا على بيت المال عبد الرحمن بن أبي بكر، وقسم طلحة والزبير أموال بيت المال في الناس وفضلوا أهل الطاعة، وأكب عليهم الناس يأخذون أرزاقهم، وأخذوا الحرس، واستبدوا في الامر بالبصرة، فحمى لذلك جماعة من قوم قتلة عثمان وأنصارهم، فركبوا في جيش قريب من ثلثمائة، ومقدمهم حكيم بن جبلة، هو أحد من باشر قتل عثمان، فبارزوا وقاتلوا.... ثم مات حكيم قتيلا هو ونحو من سبعين من قتلة عثمان.

يتبين أن السيدة عائشة ولا سيدنا الزبير ولا طلحة عزلوا والي البصرة وإنما تدافع إليه رعاع أهل البصرة. ولم يعزله أحد وإنما ولوا على بيت المال أحد اتباعهم كما ترى. ولما أخلوا سبيله توجه من فوره إلى سيدنا علي بن أبي طالب.

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واذا كان قتلة عثمان فى جيش الامام على عليه السلام فهذا يعنى رضاه عن قتل عثمان.
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أين مرجعك ومصدرك الذي يقول هذا؟؟؟!!! وحدد موقفك: هل انضم قتله عثمان إلى جيش سيدنا علي أم إلى جيش السيدة عائشة؟ وبالمرجع لو سمحت.

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عندما يتخاصم طرفان فلابد ان يكون الحق مع احدهم و الاخر على الباطل
فمن على الباطل و من على الحق.
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هذا خطأ في علم المنطق لأنه لا يتحتم هذا. فقد يكون أحدهما على صواب والآخر على خطأ. هذه وجهات نظر وتصرف الطرفان بناءً على هذا. وندم الطرفان كلٌّ على وجهة نظره وتابا إلى الله وسأل كل طرف الله أن يغفر للطرف الآخر. والله لا يغفر لا للمنافق ولا للكافر ولا للمشرك. يغفر لمن اجتهد فأخطأ، ولما ظهر خطأه استغفر. فهي مسألة صواب وخطأ ولا علاقة لها بالحق والباطل.

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انت لم تاتنى باى مصدر شيعى يدعى ان العراق كانت مركز للتشيع فى عهد الامام على عليه السلام.
ما قدمته انما يثبت وجود شيعة فى العراق: بذرة التشيع.
فذلك لان اليمن و المدينة خالية من المقاتلين الشيعة.
و عندما ارسل الامام من يواجههم هربوا من شيعة الامام كالدجاج.
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إذن كان الإمام علي يخاطب هؤلاء الشيعة عندما لعنهم وتبرأ منهم وندم على معرفتهم وصحبتهم. أليس كذلك؟؟؟!!! أم أنهم رجعوا ثانيةً إلى بلادهم ولم يقتنعوا بالإمام؟؟؟!!! هل لديك دليل بالمرجع والمصدر؟؟؟!!!

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04-11-2006, 10:35 PM
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