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هل خلق اللـه المنطق؟
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هل خلق اللـه المنطق؟
عزيزى لوجيكال (f)

لم اعترض على كلمة " منطق " بحد ذاتها ... ولم انفى ارتباط المنطق بالنظام ... بالعكس .... فى التفكير المنطقى ينبغى ان يكون هناك نظام بشكل ما .. وهو ما حاولت عكسه فى موضوعى الذى تشرف بأسمك " الكون عشوائى ام منظم " .

المشكله عندى او ما اجده عائقا بين ان نلتقى على موافقه هى " تعريف المنطق " .

فكما تعلمت منك اجد ان " 1 + 1 = 2 " لان هذا منطق عالمنا .. فهل هذا المنطق نفسه كان من الممكن ان يكون شيئا اخر فى عالم اخر ؟؟

المشكله انك تجد ان الله " خلق " النظام والمنطق ... بينما انا اعتقد فى ان الله " ذاته " النظام والمنطق . وبانعدام الله يختل المنطق بالنسبة لى . فاذا كان الله غير موجود فكيف اتسق هذا العالم ؟* ولقد حاولت كسر الصوره البدائيه لكلمه " الله هو كل شىء " والتى فندتها فى مداخلتك رقم " 2 " مع بيوتيفول مايند ...بموضوعى " رؤى شخصيه لله " محاولا التوفيق بين ايمانى وبين المنطق . ولو لاحظت لوجدتنى متفق معك كثيرا فى جوهر الطرح وان اختلفنا فى الزاويه .

بصوره اكثر وضوحا :

اذا لم يكن هناك " اساس للمنطق " فكيف سيكون هناك " منطق " ؟؟

عائد عزيزى مرات اخرى ولى الشرف ... ولا يفوتنى بالطبع القاء التحيه على حبيبنا " بيوتيفول مايند " مهديا اياه ورده ارجو ان يقبلها (f)

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