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مناقشة لكتاب Die Richtungen der Islamischen Koranauslegung
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مناقشة لكتاب Die Richtungen der Islamischen Koranauslegung
الرواية الملفقة وردت في تاريخ المدينة ج3 هكذا:

حدثنا الحماني (1) قال، حدثنا شريك، عن ابن إسحاق، عن أبي الاسود - أو غيره - قال: قيل لعبد الله ألا تقرأ على قراءة زيد ؟ قال: مالي ولزيد ولقراءة زيد، لقد أخذت من في رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم سبعين سورة، وإن زيد بن ثابت ليهودي له ذؤابتان.

(1) الحماني: هو يحيى بن عبد الحميد بن عبد الرحمن بن ميمون الحماني - بكسر المهملة - أبو زكريا الكوفي الحافظ مات سنة 228

هذا هو السبب أن السيد رحمة لم يشأ وضع الرواية الملفقة بسندها لأنه فاسد. فيكفي أن الحماني هذا ضعيف، وشريك كذلك:

الحماني: يحيى بن عبد الحميد بن عبد الرحمن بن ميمون أبو زكريا الكوفي الحافظ عن أبيه وعبد الرحمن بن الغسيل وعنه أبو حاتم وموسى بن هارون تكلم فيه أحمد وابن المديني والذهلي وعبد الحميد بن عبد الرحمن أبو يحيى الكوفي لقبه بشمين عن الأعمش وعنه ابنه يحيى وأبو كريب وثقه يحيى بن معين وضعفه أحمد وابن سعد وجابر بن نوح أبو بشير الكوفي امام مسجد بني حمان عن الأعمش وابن أبي خالد وعنه أحمد وأبو كريب وجبارة بن المغلس أبو محمد الكوفي عن قيس بن الربيع وأبي بكر النهشلي وأبي عوانة وعنه بن ماجة ومحمد بن عبيد بن محمد بن ثعلبة العامري الكوفي لقبه الحوت عن أبي يحيى عبد الحميد الحماني وعنه بن ماجة في ثقات بن حبان. (لسان الميزان. ج3. ص 283)

أخبرنا بن رزق أخبرنا إسماعيل بن علي الخطبي أخبرنا عبد الله بن أحمد بن حنبل قال: قلت لأبي: إن ابني أبي شيبة ذكروا أنهم يقدمون بغداد فما ترى فيهم؟ فقال: قد جاء بن الحماني إلى ههنا فاجتمع عليه الناس وكان يكذب جهاراً بن أبي شيبة على حال يصدق قلت لأبي: إن بن الحماني حدث عنك عن إسحاق الأزرق عن شريك عن بيان عن قيس عن المغيرة عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم: " أبردوا بالصلاة " فقال: كذب ما حدثته به فقلت: حكوا عنه أنه قال قد سمعته منه في المذاكرة على باب إسماعيل بن علية فقال: كذب إنما سمعته بعد ذلك من إسحاق أنا لم أعلم تلك الأيام أن هذا الحديث غريب حتى سألوني عنه هؤلاء الشباب أو هؤلاء الأحداث - قال: أي وقت التقينا على باب بن عليه إنما كنا نتذاكر الفقه والأبواب قال: أي كان وقع إلينا كتاب إسحاق الأزرق فانتخبت منه هذا الحديث قلت لأبي: أخبرني رجل أنه سمع بن الحماني يحدث عن شريك عن منصور عن إبراهيم " والذين إذا أصابهم البغي هم ينتصرون " الشورى 39 قال: كانوا يكرهون أن يستذلوا فقال رجل: هذا الحديث في كتاب بن المبارك عن شريك عن الحكم البصري عن منصور قال بن الحماني: حدثناه شريك عن الحكم البصري عن منصور فقال أبي: ما كان أجرأه هذه جرأة شديدة وقال: ما زلنا نعرفه أنه يسرق الأحاديث أو يلتقطها أو يتلقفها قال: وسمعت أبي مرة أخرى وذكر بن الحماني فقال: قد طلب وسمع ولو اقتصر على ما سمع لكان له فيه كفاية قال أبو عبد الرحمن وهذا أحسن ما سمعت من أبي فيه. (تاريخ بغداد. ج6. ص 246)

فالحماني ضعيف، ضعفه جمهور العلماء. (لسان الميزان. ج2. ص 262)

وشريك ضعيف أيضًا.

والرواي غير متأكد هل روى هذا الحديث "أبو الأسود" أو شخص غيره. فيقول: " عن أبي الاسود - أو غيره – قال:".

وهذا يكفي لسقوط الرواية.

أضف إلى أن "تاريخ المدينة" كتاب تاريخ لا كتاب من كتب الحديث. والمسلم لا يأخذ دينه وعقيدته من كتب التاريخ والسيرة. إنما يأخذها من: كتاب الله تعالى ومن السنة الصحيحة.
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