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الطب النبوي يسمم ثلاثة أطفال بمصر
اقتباس:  الصفي   كتب/كتبت  
اقتباس:  السرياني   كتب/كتبت  


الموضوع مرتبط ارتباط وثيق ولامانع من الرجوع اليه قليلا ...

السحر هو قوة خفية شيطانية تتسلط على الانسان وتتحكم فيه نفسا وروحا ...

انت ترفض الايمان باستيلاء وسيطرة قوة الشر او الروح الشرير على دواخل الانسان على اساس تناقضه مع العلم ... فماهو تفسيرك العلمي لمااصاب الرسول العربي ... وهل تؤمن اصلا بقوة الشر او مايسمى بالارواح الشريرة وامكانية تسلطها على الانسان ، لن اقول سكناها في الانسان لان موقفك اتضح بهذا الشأن ...

سحر النبي(ص) غير مرتبط بموضوع الشياطين ...

بشو مرتبط اذا ؟



اقتباس:و اذا كانت معرفتك بخبر سحره هي الاحاديث النبوية فلا بد لك ان تلتزم بما ورد فيها. و هي لا تذكر الشياطين لا من قريب و لا من بعيد.


السحر سحر ، وسحر النبي لايختلف عن غيره من سحر ... لقد وقع تحت سطوة قوة الشر الخفية ...


اقتباس:رفضي لما تقول به ليس اساسه تناقضه مع العلم بل و تناقضه مع المنطق كما بينت لك سابقا في انعدام الغاية من اصابة الشيطان للانسان بالجنون.

الايمان لايتحكم للعلم ولاللمنطق ، ولو جاز لنا ذلك للغينا ايماننا بمسيح مولود من عذراء وابطلنا معجزاته ورمينا خلفنا كل ماله علاقة بالعالم غير المنظور ...

وان عرضنا اقوال رسولك لهذا المقياس لابطلها جملة وتفصيلا ...

لم ارى تعليقا منك على الحديث الصحيح في رسالتي الاخيرة .. هل قول رسولك له اساس علمي ام انه من " عصر ماقبل العلم " ؟

كتبكم مليئة بمثل هذه الخرافات وسنستعرض لك بعضها لاحقا ... وفي رأسي حديث نبوي فيه ينصح بأكل ثمرة ما ، اعتقد التمر ، لابعاد شر السحر ... بس انشالله اشوفو ...


اقتباس:كما ان سبب رفضي هو ايماني القاطع بالعدل الالهي فليس من العدل ان يمكن الله العادل من الشيطان على الانسان لدرجة ان يتلبسه او يصرعه ثم يطلب منه ان يقاومه و هو يعرف بانه عدو خفي .

اسألة كثير من هذا النوع ، اهمها لماذا يسمح الله بالشر من اساسه ؟ والشر مصدره الشرير اي الشيطان ... وللشر صور عديدة وآلات متنوعة يذهب ضحيتها كل يوم مئات وآلاف الابرياء ، بل والاتقياء عبدة الله ...

الله لايسلط الشياطين على البشر ، المجتمع الخاطىء هو الذي يقذف بالابرياء في الشر ...

على كل حال هذا ليس موضوعنا ...


اقتباس:انا اؤمن بان الشيطان يوسوس للانسان مستغلا الصراع داخله بين الحلال و الحرام المسموح و الممنوع فيزين له الباطل حقا


جميل جدا ...

ولماذا تقتصر حضرتك عمل الشيطان على الوسوسة وتضليل الناس فقط ؟ هل لان دينك لايخبرك عنه اكثر من ذلك ام ان ماتعدى لاسند علمي له ؟



اقتباس:و مرة اخرى اعيد لك بان سحر النبي(ص) لا دخل لعمل الشيطان فيه و التفسير العلمي لهذه الحادثة تجده في الشريط ( فضيحة المتن و السند).


السحر يبقى سحر مهما اعطيته من مسميات وتفاسير ، وسحر النبي لايتميز عن غيره من سحر ...


اقتباس:ثانيا : من قال بان السحر قوة شيطانية الخ من التعريف الذي ذكرته اعلاه؟

طلبنا منك ان تعرفنا بمنظورك للسحر ...

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07-23-2006, 02:02 AM
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