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هذا هو الفــــــــــــارق
عزيزي اسد الاسلام , الاخوة الافاضل
اقتباس: اسد الاسلام كتب/كتبت
ثانيا: التـــــــــــــــــــــــــــــــاريخ .
سيدنا موسى ولد وتربى على ارض مصر وكان يعامل معامله ابن فرعون مع ذالك لو يذكره التاريخ المصرى بشئ ولا حتى وجه شئ يلمح عليه وذاللك بالاضافه اننا بلا فخر لا نعرف الى الان من فرعون موسى.
سيدنا المسيح ولد وتربى فى فلسطين وكانت محتله من الرومان وارسل الى بنى اسرائيل ويقول النصارى: انه ذهب الى مصر ورجع الى فلسطين حيث (: صلب ودفن ورفع منها:) مع ذاللك كله كان هول المفاجاه انه لم يذكر فى تاريخ بنى اسرائيل ولا حتى توراتهم ولم يذكره التاريخ المصرى ولا الرومانى .
عزيزي أسد الاسلام , مقالتك سامحني مليئة بالمغالطات الغير واقعية و أرجو دائما أن تتحقق من الكلام قبل نقله , كلامك على انه لا يوجد
أي أثر أو أدلة على أي عقيدة سوى الاسلام لامعنى له و وواضح أثر التضليل فيه بشدة , عموما مهما كبر الانسان فأنه دوما يتعلم و يستفيد طالما لديه الرغبة لذلك , راجع عزيزي الروابط و الادلة التاريخية التالية
صورة رحلة العبرانيين لمصر محملين بالهدايا في مقابر بني حسن و يرجع تاريخها لعام 1890 قبل الميلاد
Egyptian Beni Hasan Tomb Painting
c. 1890 B.C. – Color Mural 8 Feet Long
http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1265.htm
رسائل تل العمارنة و التي تتحدث عن حرب الفرعون المصري مع
( الهابيرو ) في أشارة واضحة للعبرانيين .
أنظر عزيزي للصورة جيدا
http://www.katapi.org.uk/BAndS/beniHasan.htm
و الآن الدليل الآخر رسائل تل العمارنة ( حوالي 1370 ق . م )
http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1259.htm
The el-Amarna letters, a collection of correspondence between various states and Egypt, were found in the remains of the ancient city of Akhetaten, c. 1370 BCE. Some of the documents belong to the time of Amenhotep III, while others are from the time of Akhenaten. Lab'aya is the troublesome king who is apparently from Shechem. Lab'aya, it seems, is more interested in personal aggrandizement than doing the bidding of the king his lord, the pharaoh of Egypt. He captures cities that don't belong to him and has dealings with the "enemy" (the habiru), that most believe are the Hebrews.
و هذه أيضا
http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1258.htm
و هذه رسالة من ملك شاليم ( أورشليم ) يشتكي فيها لمللك مصر من عدم معاونته له في حربه ضد العبرانيين ( الهابيرو ) الذين نزحوا من عنده .
http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1260.htm
Abdi-Hiba of Jerusalem to the king, No. 1 EA#285 vd(31): this letter and perhaps also #291 were written by Abdi-Hiba residing in Jerusalem to the king of Egypt. Complains that he has no archery protection from his enemies (Eenhamu of the habiru), also states he was put in his office in Jerusalem not because of his parents but by the king, states he can't leave to visit the king because of the enemies; mentions an official person of Eenhamu, [Addai]a; mentions archers, deputy;
http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1261.htm
No. 2 - EA#286 fc(64): feels he is being slandered by others before the king; mentions the deputy, a scribe, the Habiru, archers, deputies and regents, a garrison; mentions Eenhamu, Egypt; mentions Ilimilku, hostility against him; No. 3 - EA#287 fc(78): mentions copper; mentions cities of Kelti (Keilah or Ekron?), [G]azri (Gezer?), Asqaluna (Ashkelon?), Lakisi (Lachish?) and Urusalim (Jerusalem); mentions archers; refers to his mother and father; mentions Milkili, sons of Labaja this way, `Verily, this deed is the deed of Milkili and the deed of the sons of Labaya which have given the land of the king to the Habiru.'; mentions the Kasi people, the deputies, crimes committed, horses, the deputy of the king Pauru, [A]d(d)aja, the garrison of officers, prisoners, bearers, caravans; mentions the place of Ialuna, that he was almost killed in his house;
حجر ( مرنبتاح ) و الموجودة حاليا بالمتحف المصري بميدان التحرير بالقاهرة
تذكر بكل وضح العبرانيين في كنعان بعد خروجهم من مصر .
http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1263.htm
The Stela of Merneptah – Thebes, Egypt
c. 1210 BC - Poetic Eulogy to Pharaoh Merneptah
Mentions the Israelites in Canaan •after the Exodus from Egypt: • •The princes are prostrate saying: "Shalom!" •Not one of the Nine Bows lifts his head: •Tjehenu is vanquished, Khatti at peace, •Canaan is captive with all woe. •Ashkelon is conquered, Gezer seized, •Yanoam made nonexistent; •Israel is wasted, bare of seed, •Khor is become a widow for Egypt. •All who roamed have been subdued •By the King of Upper and Lower Egypt, Banere-meramun, •Son of Re, Merneptah, Content with Maat, •Given life like Re every day.
حجر مرنبتاح مرة أخرى
http://www.greatcommission.com/BiblicalArc...s/slide1264.htm
A popular theory among Biblical scholars today is that Israel emerged from peoples indigenous to Canaan in the mid 12th century BC. If this is true, then Biblical history and chronology prior to ca. 1150 BC would have to be jettisoned. Proponents of the "12th century emergence theory" maintain that the Israelites did not come into Canaan from outside to conquer the land around 1400 BC, as the Bible indicates. The emergence scenario would also reject the historicity of the Wilderness Wanderings, Exodus, Egyptian Sojourn and the Patriarchal narratives. However, if Israel were an established entity in Canaan already in 1210 BC, as the Merneptah Stela implies, then the 12th century emergence theory would be refuted (Bimson 1991). If Israel was well established by the end of the 13th century, it could not have come into being in the middle of the next century. As a result, the Merneptah Stela has been meticulously scrutinized and analyzed by scholars, perhaps more so than any text outside the Bible. They are out to determine what it "really" says, not that they would want to force any preconceived notions on the text! Michael G. Hasel, a doctoral candidate at the University of Arizona, has recently reviewed the various interpretations concerning the reference to Israel in the stela. Furthermore, he has done an in-depth linguistic study to determine as far as possible the intended meaning of text.
أما العهد الجديد فحدث و لاحرج عن الادلة على صدق أحداثه , راجع الرابط التالي للحفريات الحديثة التي تعرض كافة الادلة على صدق أحداث العهد الجديد
http://www.greatcommission.com/
و من أهم الادلة كفن السيد المسيح و قد عرضه الاخ أبانوب في الرابط التالي
http://nadyelfikr.net/viewthread.php?tid=19811&page=1
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