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ما الذي يعجبك في الدين الاسلامي وما الذي لايعجبك فيه ؟؟ دعوة للنقاش
اقتباس:  arfan   كتب/كتبت  
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الجنة .. واعني جنتنا نحن .. المسلمين .. هي للفرجة والسماع فقط .. ولن يدخلها إلا الأمراء والمشائخ من خريجي جامعة الإمام .. أما بقية الرعاع ..فهم إلى النار ويئس المصير .. وما منكم إلا واردها .. !


أشياء كثيرة تدخلك النار بهفوة صغيره مثل إطالة الثوب أو تحرقك بالنار لانك لا تستطيع الصلاة خمس مرات في اليوم حسب تقويم ام القرى جماعة .. أو لأنك تحب سماع محمد عبده او مشاهدة روتانا ..  


المسيحية دين سهل لين ويملاء القلب كما يملاءه أي دين أخر بالتمام والكمال .... فبعد التحديات التي واجهتها خلال القرون الماضية طورت من نفسها وحافظت على جمهورها وتحولت الى رمز جميل لأخلاقيات سامية ومثل إنسانيه خالدة وانفكت من اسر الطقوسيه التي صارت في دائرة رجال الدين فقط أو للمؤمنين اختياريا .. فيكفي الإيمان القلبي بالمسيح مخلصا وفاديا لتضمن ألجنه  

أما لدينا فلا طريق للجنة إلا وهو مسدود بعقبات لا يستطيع التغلب عليها إلا مجنون أو مهووس أو مريض عقليا .. وأصبح من الطبيعي ان تجد من الناس من يظل في الحمام للوضوء قبل الأذان ليخرج من الوضؤ والصلاة على وشك الانتهاء بسبب هوس النجاسة الذي سيلقيك في النار .. أو تجد من الناس من يكسر التلفزيون مرات ومرات فرارا من النار .. طريق صعب للجنة ومطالب صعبه اقلها أن تخرج من بيتك أو عملك أو توقف تيار حياتك كل بضع ساعات لتغطس في بركة ماء وتذهب للقاء الحبايب ..!

والأعجب والأغرب أن تغيير الدين هو من أصعب الأمور إنسانيا ..ملايين يغيرون أو طانهم ومجتمعاتهم ولكنهم يبقون على الدين فليس من السهل الخروج من الدين .. فنحن خلقنا ونشأنا على ما رأينا أهلنا عليه وسنظل عليه ..  

وليت أن الأمور وقفت عند حدود الاخرة والجنة والنار .. بل أن الجائزة الحقيقية تتمحور حول الدنيا .. فنشأ لدينا عشرات الآلاف بل ربما مئات الآلاف من الهداة المهتدين الذين وظيفتهم الأولى والوحيدة هي تذكيرنا بالموت و بعذاب القبر و بالنار وتخوفينا من الله وإرهابنا بعصا الدين .. وأصبح أولئك الجمهور من الوعاظ والخطباء والائمة والناجين والمنصورين هم قادة المجتمع إلى الجنون الجماعي والهوس الجماعي .. ومعهم كل الحق ومن يرفض أن يكون هاديا ومرشدا ومسيطرا وفوق النقد .. لهذا أصبح التدين والتمشيخ هدف لكل لوذعي ولكل من يعرف من أين تؤكل الكتف .. وصارت جامعة الإمام مفتاح المستقبل الواعد للشباب الطامح إلى التسيد والى الأمر والنهي والتسلط .. وصار التزاحم على كليات جامعة الإمام عنوانا على مدى التقدم الذي يحياه مجتمعنا ( المعاصر ) ..! فلا تقل طبيب أو مهندس أو صيدلي .. بل ان اهل هذه المهن النادرة نادمين عليها وكثير منهم تحول الى طبيب واعظ أو مهندس واعظ .. ولو عاد بهم الزمن لما درسوا الطب أو الزراعه أو الهندسه ولاتجهوا لجامعة الامام منذ البداية وتسيدوا المجالس والعقول ..  



استاذ ( قرفان ) اسمح لي أن أقول لك - وأرجو ألا أزيدك قرفاً - إن كلامك لايمت بصلة لمناقشة موضوع نظري مثل هذا الذي فتحته الاخت اسماء ..

مسألة ( التكسب ) بالوعظ - على افتراض أنها موجودة في الاسلام دون المسيحية والعكس صحيح كما تعلم - عمرها ماكانت تبني شيء أو تهدمه بالنسبة لبنية الدين نفسها ..

افرض إن جيمي سواجارت الواعظ الاعظم ضبطوه بين أفخاذ إحدى المومسات بعدما كان يُبكي الملايين على المنصة وأمام التلفاز ملايين لاحصر لها تبكي بسبب خطاياها , ثم ...

ثم طلع يبكي المرة دي ندما ويقول : معلش زلة ... زلة ...

خلاص زلة ماشي , بس ايه علاقة ده بصحة المسيحية من عدمه ! ومثله موضوع التكسب ..

النقطة التانية : مسألة ( السهولة ) ليست مبرر ولادليل على صحة الدين - لو كنت تؤمن بلقاء الله وتريد فعلا أن تكون صاق مع نفسك - لأن المسيح بيقول :

Mt:7:13:
13 ادخلوا من الباب الضيق.لانه واسع الباب ورحب الطريق الذي يؤدي الى الهلاك.وكثيرون هم الذين يدخلون منه. (SVD)

طريق ابليس هو السهل ياقرفان كمايقول المسيح , وهناك أدلة كتير على ذلك من القرآن وعلى سبيل المثال عموم الايات التي تأمر ب( الصبر ) وتحض عليه تدل على تلك الحقيقة .

والرسول عليه الصلاة والسلام يقول : حفت النار بالشهوات وحفت الجنة بالمكاره .

فعمر ماكان طريق جهنم صعب وانما هو أسهل شيء وأقرب شيء الى يديك وعينيك ورجليك .. لأننا في امتحان هل سنصبر على ذلك لله أم لا ..

وأما حالات الوسواس القهري والحالات المرضية التي ذكرتها كالذي يحطم التليفزيون بفاس الغيط إلخ هذه الاشياء : فهؤلاء الله يعينهم ويشفيهم ويشفي كل مريض !


وأما الاحاديث النبوية التي سردتها حول أمور فقهية من الفروع وفروع الفروع من العبادات - وطبعا كلها منقولة من غرف الشيعة على البالتوك ومتداولة بينكم كما نعلم كلنا - فلاأزيد على القول بإن إذا كان هذا هو فهمك الشامل للإسلام : فمن حقك ألا تعتنقه لأنك بعيد ....... بعيد جدا .

تحياتي واحترامي .





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