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سـؤال يحيرنـي... فهل من عاقل يجيبني عليه...؟
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سـؤال يحيرنـي... فهل من عاقل يجيبني عليه...؟
اقتباس:  شحيتاوي   كتب/كتبت  
 
يقول داروين:
[b] (الكون جاء من المادة، والمادة أصلها طاقة، والطاقة أبدية لا تخلق ولا تفنى...)


الطاقة كما عرفها علماء الفيزياء هي نظام حركي، والحركة هي ناتج عمل المكونات الداخلية للذرة كاللألكترونات والبروتونات والنيوترونات وغيرها، وهذه المكونات تعمل وفقا لنظام رياضي دقيق صارم، وإلا فإنه لا يمكن تخيل حدوث طاقة.

فأنت إذن عندما تتحدث عن الطاقة فإنما تتحدث عن أصلها وهي الذرة، والذرة تتكون من جسيمات دقيقة، وهذه الجسيمات مادة، فتكون قد وجدت نفسك وجها لوجه مرة أخرى أمام ما أردت أن تهرب من الإعتراف به وهو المادة.

فعندما تقول بأزلية الطاقة، فإنما تقول بالضرورة بأزلية المادة، والأزلية موضوعها هو زمانية المادة بعد وجودها وبعد أن أصبحت أمرا واقعا، في حين أن موضوعنا ليس هو متى نشأت المادة ومتى تنتهي، بل موضوعنا هو من أين نشأت.

وعلى ذلك، فمن الواضح هو أنك تحاول أن تتحاشى مواجهة السؤال الكبير:

من أين أتت المادة ومن أين نشأت؟





عدو المشركين وشحيتاوي

من الواضح أنكما لا تعلمان شيئاً في الفيزياء الحديثة أو الكوسمولوجياً.

الزميل شحيتاوي يسأل عن بدء المادة، فنعطيه وجهة نظر العلم فيقول لنا أن العلم لن يستطيع حل المشكلة.. فنقول له: انظر، العلم يمشي وبخطوات جبارة في هذا الإتجاه.. فيأتينا بتعاريف في الفيزياء والرياضيات ماأنزل اللـه بها من سلطان.. بل وحتى لم يستطع أن يعرّف المنطق، والذي قال أنه لا يمكن العمل إلا به...

لا يبدو لي أنك تريد أن تصل الى الحقيقة، بل يوجد حقيقة في رأسك تريد الوصول إليها.

أنا من جهتي أعتذر عن خوض حوار مثل هذا اللآن لضيق الوقت والخلق..

لمن يريد الإطلاع على فيزياء بداية الكون أنا أرشح كتاب (الدقائق الثلاث الأولى) لستيفن فاينبرغ. برأيي أن هذا العالم هو أفضل من شرح هذه الأفكار لغير المختصين:
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Steven weinberg
01-12-2005, 03:03 AM
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سـؤال يحيرنـي... فهل من عاقل يجيبني عليه...؟ - بواسطة Alhazen - 01-12-2005, 03:03 AM

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