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سـؤال يحيرنـي... فهل من عاقل يجيبني عليه...؟
ابن سوريا غير متصل
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سـؤال يحيرنـي... فهل من عاقل يجيبني عليه...؟
عفواً ولكن لا يمكنني المتابعة بهكذا نقاش.
عندما نريد النقاش ضمن العلم فلا ينفعك الإنشاء والخطابة وتحوير الكلم عن موضعه وزج البعث والسياسة ضمن النقاش للتمويه، برافو هذه طريقة قوية وجديدة للتهرب من مواصلة الحوار.
عندما تريد مناقشة في مجال المنطق ثم لا تريد التقيد بأسس هذا المنطق فبماذا سنتناقش وعلى أي أسس؟ أنت قلت سأقبل جدلاً بالتالي ...
ثم لا تقبل بأصول الجدل المنطقي، فعلى أي أسس سأناقشك؟ بالأسس التي تضعها أنت أم بأسس العلوم التي تلزم نفسك بها؟
لو حاورني مسلم مثلاً وقبلت معه بالحوار ضمن أسس علوم الفقه والحديث وماإلى هنالك ثم بدأت أخترع من عندياتي قواعد لا علاقة لها بهذا العلم فهل سأكون جاداً بهكذا نقاش.

"نقول له ثور يقول احلبوه".
يطلب تعريف الرياضيات فنعرفه له.
يطلب شرحاً فنشرح. ثم يعتبر القول بما قبل وما بعد مجرد فذلكة لغوية.ويصر على فهمه الخاص والغريب للمنطق. نقول له لا معنى للقول بما بعد وما قبل رياضياً على سلم الزمن "ما فوق المادي" بما أن سلم الزمن أصبح ببعدين لا ببعد واحد كما أوضحنا، فيسمنا بالديكتاتورية. وما علاقة الديكتاتورية بالرياضيات والمنطق؟ :what:
أول مرة أرى نقاشاً من هذا النوع بموضوع علمي.

عزيزي ليس ذنبي جهلك بأصول علم ما. وهو ليس معيباً لك ولكن المعيب الدخول بنقاش بشيء لا تفقه به بدل البحث قليلاً، قبل أن تدخل مزمجراً ضارباً بالحائط كل أصول وآداب الحوار العقلاني.

لا يمكنني متابعة الحوار إذا أردت أن تجعل من الحوار "شوربة". وتخرج بالنتيجة التي يبدو أنك وضعتها بشكل مسبق للحوار.

تحياتي لك وحظاً أوفر.
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