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بحث فى مصطلح ابن الله فى العهد الجديد
و بقى ان اقول شيئا عن موضوع جميع النسخ الحديثة
بالرغم من اننى اعتبرها نقطة ساقطة من الزميل خاصة ان قاموسه المنطقى يجعل
جميع النسخ الحديثة = النسخ التى تحذف

و هي عبارة كافية جدا في نظرى
و لكن ليعلم القراء بعض الامور


1- عندما تراجعون النسخ التى عرضها الزميل مدعيا انها الاحدث تجدون ان كلها نسخ نقدية و انى اتمنى ان يصور لنا الزميل مقدمات هذه النسخ لا النص المطلوب لنعلم ما هو المنهج الذي يتبعه هؤلاء النقاد


2-ايضا علينا ان ننظر ما مدى اعتماد هذه النسخ في العالم


3- عندما اتحدث عن احدث النسخ كان على ان اذكر نسخة the net bible

صدرت الطبعة التجريبية من هذه النسخة عام 2001
و صدرت الطبعة الاولى منهاعام 2005

يتحدث العالم ( دانيال والاس ) احد كبار المشرفين علي النسخة و يقول انها تعتمد علي

"a critically constructed Greek text, following the principles of reasoned eclecticism."


By the phrase "reasoned eclecticism" he means the method of textual criticism practiced by most scholars today, including the editors of the Nestle-Aland (UBS) text


و عند النظرالي هذه النسخة
http://net.bible.org/bible.php?book=Mar&chapter=1#v4

نجد النص
The beginning of the gospel 1 of Jesus Christ, 2 the Son of God. 3


و بالنظر الي التعليق نجد دراسة في منتهى الروعة

3 tc א* Θ 28 l2211 pc sams Or lack υἱοῦ θεοῦ (Juiou qeou, “son of God”), while virtually all the rest of the witnesses have the words (A Ë1,13 33 Ï also have τοῦ [tou] before θεοῦ), so the evidence seems to argue for the authenticity of the words. Most likely, the words were omitted by accident in some witnesses, since the last four words of v. 1, in uncial script, would have looked like this: iu_c_r_u_u_u_q_u_. With all the successive upsilons an accidental deletion is likely. Further, the inclusion of υἱοῦ θεοῦ here finds its complement in 15:39, where the centurion claims that Jesus was υἱὸς θεοῦ (Juios qeou, “son of God”). Even though א is in general one of the best NT mss, its testimony is not quite as preeminent in this situation. There are several other instances in which it breaks up chains of genitives ending in ου (cf., e.g., Acts 28:31; Col 2:2; Heb 12:2; Rev 12:14; 15:7; 22:1), showing that there is a significantly higher possibility of accidental scribal omission in a case like this. This christological inclusio parallels both Matthew (“Immanuel…God with us” in 1:23/“I am with you” in 28:20) and John (“the Word was God” in 1:1/“My Lord and my God” in 20:28), probably reflecting nascent christological development and articulation.
sn The first verse of Mark’s Gospel appears to function as a title: The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. It is not certain, however, whether Mark intended it to refer to the entire Gospel, to the ministry of John the Baptist, or through the use of the term beginning (ἀρχή, arch) to allude to Genesis 1:1 (in the Greek Bible, LXX). The most likely option is that the statement as a whole is an allusion to Genesis 1:1 and that Mark is saying that with the “good news” of the coming of Christ, God is commencing a “new beginning.”



ولا تعليق

اتناول الموضوع باقوال اكبر علماء المخطوطات
يصر علي استخدام اعمى لتعليق للاب (عبد المسيح بسيط)
اتناول الموضوع بمقارنة اكبر و اشهرالنسخ الحديثة و النقدية
يصر علي انتقاء نسخ نعلم من عناوينها منهجها المتبع
اعرض الامر و الحالات المطابقة في الاسلام و اطلب منه ان يضع الصور بجوار بعضها
يهرب و يهرب و يهرب




فقط قارنوا بين ما اقدمه و بين ما يقدمه الزميل
فقط قارنوا



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