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فكيف يحاولوا إثبات ألوهية يسوع بكونه فاعل للمعجزات ؟ هذا سؤال يحتاج إلى إجابة وهو سؤال يهدم قول كل من يدعي أن من ألوهية يسوع هو أنه يفعل المعجزات .
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لا أحد يقول بالوهية السيد المسيح لانه فعل المعجزات ( فقط ) و لكن لسببان :

أولا هو أعلن ذلك بنفسه

ثانيا برهن على ذلك بالمعجزات و أهمها قيامته المجيدة .

السيد المسيح فعل العديد من المعجزات التي لم يفعلها غيره و لكن ذلك لم يكن كافيا للتأكد من لاهوته فرغم انه اعلن لاهوته أكثر من مرة و آمن بذلك التلاميذ لكنههم شكوا في هذا الايمان بعد صلبه و موته أذ كيف يكون ابن الله المتجسد و يموت ؟؟؟؟؟

لهذا انصرف التلاميذ عن السيد المسيح بعد القبض عليه و صلبه و موته ماعدا يوحنا و لكنهم أسترجعوا ما آمنوا به و تيقنوا منه بعد قيامته المجيدة فجاءت البرهان الاكيد و الاخير على لاهوته .

راجع التالي :

أعمال 2 : 32فَيَسُوعُ هَذَا أَقَامَهُ اللهُ وَنَحْنُ جَمِيعاً شُهُودٌ لِذَلِكَ. 33وَإِذِ ارْتَفَعَ بِيَمِينِ اللهِ وَأَخَذَ مَوْعِدَ الرُّوحِ الْقُدُسِ مِنَ الآبِ سَكَبَ هَذَا الَّذِي أَنْتُمُ الآنَ تُبْصِرُونَهُ وَتَسْمَعُونَهُ. 34لأَنَّ دَاوُدَ لَمْ يَصْعَدْ إِلَى السَّمَاوَاتِ. وَهُوَ نَفْسُهُ يَقُولُ: قَالَ الرَّبُّ لِرَبِّي اجْلِسْ عَنْ يَمِينِي 35حَتَّى أَضَعَ أَعْدَاءَكَ مَوْطِئاً لِقَدَمَيْكَ. 36فَلْيَعْلَمْ يَقِيناً جَمِيعُ بَيْتِ إِسْرَائِيلَ أَنَّ اللهَ جَعَلَ يَسُوعَ هَذَا الَّذِي صَلَبْتُمُوهُ أَنْتُمْ رَبّاً وَمَسِيحاً».

رومية 1 : 2الَّذِي سَبَقَ فَوَعَدَ بِهِ بِأَنْبِيَائِهِ فِي الْكُتُبِ الْمُقَدَّسَةِ 3عَنِ ابْنِهِ. الَّذِي صَارَ مِنْ نَسْلِ دَاوُدَ مِنْ جِهَةِ الْجَسَدِ 4وَتَعَيَّنَ ابْنَ اللهِ بِقُوَّةٍ مِنْ جِهَةِ رُوحِ الْقَدَاسَةِ بِالْقِيَامَةِ مِنَ الأَمْوَاتِ: يَسُوعَ الْمَسِيحِ رَبِّنَا.


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وإن كان الأمر كذلك فعلينا حينئذ أن نرجع إلى فقرة أخرى تقول أن حتى أتباع يسوع من الكاذبين قادرين على فعل المعجزات وهذه المعجزات التي يفعلونها هي سبب هلاكهم في الآخرة وأن المسيح سيتبرأ منهم يوم القيامة .

متى7/22: كثيرون سيقولون لي في ذلك اليوم يا رب يا رب أليس باسمك تنبأنا وباسمك اخرجنا شياطين وباسمك صنعنا قوات كثيرة. (23) فحينئذ أصرّح لهم اني لم اعرفكم قط.اذهبوا عني يا فاعلي الاثم (SVD)
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المثصود بهذه الآيات من كانوا فعلا مسيحيين .. وقد اجترحوا المعجزات فعلاً باسم المسيح .. ولكنهم لم " يثبتوا " في الايمان بل ارتدوا وفعلوا الاثم !

مثل التلميذ يهوذا الاسخريوطي ..
الذي اعطاه الرب سلطاناً على الشياطين والامراض مماثلاً للسلطان الذي اعطي لباقي التلاميذ ..
وقد صنع المعجزات باسم المسيح الذي كان يناديه " يا رب يا رب " ..!

ولكنه فعل الاثم وارتد وهلك ..!!!

فهؤلاء يعتقدون ان أيمانهم الذي كان في وقت من الاوقات من الممكن ان يشفع لهم أمام الرب حتى و لو أرتدوا عنه و فعلوا الشر بعد ذلك و لكنهم مخطئون .

في العهد القديم هناك مثال قوي في الملك شاول بن قيس ... الذي حل عليه روح الرب .. وصار يتنبأ باسم الرب ..

لدرجة انهم تعجبوا ان يكون شاول بين الانبياء !!

ولما رآه جميع الذين عرفوه منذ امس وما قبله انه يتنبّأ مع الانبياء قال الشعب الواحد لصاحبه ماذا صار لابن قيس . اشاول ايضا بين الانبياء } ( 1 صموئيل 11:10)

لكنه هلك في النهاية بعد ان فارقه روح الرب !

فليس العبرة في البداية انما النهاية !د

اذكروا مرشديكم الذين كلموكم بكلمة الله . انظروا الى نهاية سيرتهم فتمثلوا بايمانهم } ( عبرانيين 7:13)

و أيضا النبي سليمان الذي كان من الحكماء و لكنه في النهاية زاغ وراء الآلهة الوثنية بسبب كثرة نسائه الاجنبيات و مخالفته وصية الرب .

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