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بحث فى مصطلح ابن الله فى العهد الجديد
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و كلمة الاب وحده لا تصلح اذن كلمة الابن لا تصلح كذلك و لا كلمة المسيح

اليس هذاما يفهم من كلامك
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لا عزيزي ليس هذا ما يفهم من كلامي , من قال ان لفظ الآب لا يصلح للتعبير عن اللاهوت ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

لفظ الآب يعبر عن جانب أو وظيفة أو دور للرب يهوه آله اسرائيل كذلك لفظ الابن كذلك لفظ المعزي

أو الروح القدس .

الثلاثة وظائف يعبرون عن كامل جوانب الله و ووظائفه و أقانبمه .


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اذن كونك عبد المسيح خطأ لان المسيح هو احد مسميات الابن اى اقنوم واحد فقط بل المسيح ليس اقنوم لانه عبارة عن اقنوم الابن متحد بالناسوت اذن هو اقل من اقنوم لان به جرء بشرى يتالم و يموت و يبصق عليه
و هذا الجزء البشرى الناسوتى هو الذى كان يدعو بقية الاقانيم ....
[/quote]

عزيزي سامحني انا أشعر بشدة أنك تجادل لمجرد الجدل , أليس الله في الاسلام له 99 أسما و من يدري كم سيتم تخفيضهم
بعد أكتشاف الاخطاء في الاسماء الحسنى حديثا فهل بهذا المنطق من سمى نفسه : عبد الرحيم فقط خاطئ ؟؟؟

هل من سمى نفسه : عبد العليم فقط خاطئ ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

هل يجب ان يتسمى المسلم عبد ال 99 اسم ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟



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اذن اسمك عبد المسيح خطأ يجب ان تعبد الرب يهوه ايلوهيم كما تسميه ...... و موضوع ان الرب يهوه نزل و تجسد او ارسل ابنه و تجسد كلها ممكن الاستغناء عنها
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و كيف يتم الفداء أذا ؟؟؟؟؟



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اليس هذا كلامك و اليس هذا ما اقوله من اول سطر انه لا داعى لعبادة اى شىء الا الله الواحد فقط؟؟؟؟؟؟؟.
و انت تقول ايضا ان الاب بمعنى الاصل فلماذا تعبد المسيح الذى هو فرع من كلامك انت لماذا لا تعبد الاصل ؟؟؟؟؟ اله ابراهيم و اسحق و يعقوب .........................
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للأسف الموضوع تحول لكلام مكرر و جدل لمجرد الجدل

سبق و شرحت لك من قبل أن الاصل و الكلمة و المعزي كلها أسماء ووظائف لذات ( واحدة ) و على هذا
فكلامك على أننا نعبد الفرع دون الاصل هو كلام لا معنى له لمجرد الجدل و الرفض فقط .





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و المسيح ليس هو الوهيم لان الوهيم له ثلاثة اقانيم منهم المسيح اذن عبادة المسيح غير كافية و تسمية الديانة بالمسيحية غير كافية كذلك لانها تنسب الى اقنوم واحد و تهمل اقنومان ..........!
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مزيد من الجدل لمجرد الجدل , من قال أن الديانة المسيحية تهمل الجوانب الاخرى لله ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

المسيحية توضح بجلاء مافعله السيد المسيح و لكنها لا تنكر لاهوت الآب و الروح المعزي الذي يبني الكنيسة .



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المسيح جزء من ثلاثة اجزاء او ثلاثة اقانيم فهل من اللائق ان تنسب دينك الى جزء واحد من الثالوث و اين الآب و الروح القدس ؟؟؟ و تعبد هذا الجزء فقط ؟؟؟؟؟.
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سامحني في كلامي و لكن هذا الكلام لا معنى له لان الابن ليس جزء و الاقانيم ليست أجزاء بل جوانب
ووظائف لذات واحدة غير منقسمة .

أنها أشبه بالابعاد طول و عرض و أرتفاع فهل الابعاد تنقسم ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟ هل الطول ينفصل عن العرض عن الارتفاع ؟؟؟؟



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