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نادي الفكر العربي / الســـــــــاحات الاختصاصيـــــة / الحوار الديني v / الجن و الصرع ( الي الصفى )

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المشاركات: 2,545
الانضمام: Apr 2005
مشاركة: #37
الجن و الصرع ( الي الصفى )
العزيز الصفى
ابن الصلاح احد علماء الحديث
فإن قال كلاما يفيد اغلاق باب التصحيح و كان لهذا دورا في رؤيتك للقضية
فعلينا مناقشته

و يمكن البدء بهذا الرابط
http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3015
الي ان اتمكن من استيعاب ( النكت على المقدمة )


و ايضا - و انت اكثر من يقول - حتى لو اتفق عدد كبير على شئ ما فهذا لا يعني صحتها

مثلا لو صحح الالباني و الهيثمي و ابن حجر حديث

و انكر فكرة التصحيح اساسا ابن الصلاح و علماء اخرين
فعلينا ان نختار على اساس حقيقي
فمسألة قبول عقلك للفكرة احسبها نفس مسألة الاستاذ Awarfie
بيد اننى اعتقد اننا كمتدينيين نتصف بصفة الايمان القابل لتصديق ما لم يثبته العقل
اما اشكالياتك المبنية على القران فاحسبها قد نوقشت في الرابط الذي وضعته سابقا و ساعيد النظر فيها


و هذه في حد ذاتها ليست حجة بحيث يبحث المؤمن عن اي خرافة تعبر الطريق ليؤمن بها
بل هناك منهجا معينا ينبغى ان يتبع

في الاسلام اخترع المسلمون منهج ( الحديث )
فإن استندت الي اقوال (ائمة الحديث ) في تحديد ( معتقدات اهل السنة ) فاحسب اننى غير مخطئ


تعال نفترض انهم حشويون
او انهم لا يعيرون العلوم الحديثة اهتماما
او اي شئ


فعلى الاقل يمكننى ان اقول مطمئنا ( اسلام اهل السنة - الحديث - يؤمن بالعلاقة بين الجن و الصرع طبقا لمروياتهم الصحيحة عندهم عن محمد و صحابته في تفسير القران او اقوال محمد )


و تشمل قائمتى (الاشعري - ابن حجر - ابن تيمية - ابن القيم - ابن كثير - ابن حنبل - الذهبي - الحاكم ....الخ )
و على الاقل يمكننى ان انسب هؤلاء الي مدرسة اسلامية معينة تؤمن بعلاقة الجن بالصرع


تحياتي
(تم إجراء آخر تعديل على هذه المشاركة: 05-10-2007, 05:09 PM بواسطة fancyhoney.)
05-10-2007, 05:07 PM
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