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عزيزي ديب بلو سي , الاخوة الافاضل

أهلين عزيزي شلونك

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و يا ترى من الذي وضع هذه الطبيعة الميالة للخطية في أبيكم أدم كي ترثونها ؟
[/quote]

عدو الخير لان الله لا يمكن ان يخلق الانسان و به ميل للخطية لان هذا يتعارض مع كمال خلقه للانسان الذي خلقه على أحسن تقويم
و جعله على صورته و لكن جحد آدم فجحدت ذريته و عصى آدم ربه فغوى و غوت ذريته .


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دعنا نقل أن خطية أدم هي أنه أفسد طبيعته و بهذا نحن نرث خطية معينة و هي افساد الطبيعة اننا نحاسب على نتيجة فعل لشخص لم نراه
[/quote]

تصحيح نحن لا نرث ( خطية ) أفساد الطبيعة و لكننا نرث ( نتيجة ) أفساد طبيعة آدم .


دعني اعطيك مثال بسيط : لو تعرض والدك الكريم لا قدر الله لحادث نصب و أحتيال و سرق شخص ما منه مبلغ كبير من المال ألا ترث
أنت كأبنه نتائج تلك الفعلة فتجد نفسك في ضيقة مالية لا قدر الله ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

هل في كلامي هذا شئ غير منطقي ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

ألا يرث الانسان الصفات الوراثية من أبيه ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

هل لو كان لدى آدم ثلاثة أذرع بدلا من ذراعين أما كنا نحن أيضا نولد بثلاثة أذرع لاننا كلنا نسله منقسمين من خلاياه ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟


Array
ألم يمت أبوكم أدم ؟
ألن تموت أنت يا من تعبد المسيح و تتحول الى تراب ما فائدة الفداء اذا لقد طبق عليكم حكم الموت
لم تتم معادلة حياة أحد و فشل يسوع فشلا ذريعا لأن كل انسان يموت و يطبق عليه الحكم
[/quote]

الفداء جاء من أجل الحياة الاخرى و ليس من أجل الحياة الفانية التي نحياها , نحن نموت جسديا لكي نتخلص من جسدنا الحالي
الذي فسد من تلك الطبيعة التي حدثتك عنها و نخلع الانسان القديم لنرتدي الجديد .

تماما كما يحدث معك عندما تتعرض ملابسك للأتساخ فتخلعها لترتدي أخرى جديدة و لكن هناك من سيخلعها ليظل عريانا لا يجد جسد
جديد يرتديه لانه لم يعادل حياته بحياة اخرى مساوية لها .

السيد المسيح سدد الدين المستحق علينا و عادل بحياته حياتنا لكي يصبح من حقنا ( بعد خلع الجسد الفاسد ) أن نرتدي جسد جديد
ممجد و لكن من يرفض فداء المسيح يظل مديونا للعدل الآلهي بحياة مقابل حياته و يكون عجز عن سدادها و بهذا لا يصبح من حقه التمتع
بحياة القيامة و جسد القيامة الممجد النوراني .

يهيئ لي بهذا أنا اوضحت الفكرة .



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هل هذا قانون جديد للوراثة هل هناك جينات للسلوك تورث فقط من الأب و ليس من الأم يا سيد عبد المسيح
[/quote]

عزيزي هذه الطبيعة روحية و ليست جسدية و عموما الرجل هو الاساس لان الله خلق آدم اولا و بعد هذا خلق حواء من ضلعه
الله خلقنا من نفس واحدة و خلق منها زوجها أي حواء .

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06-12-2007, 02:42 PM
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