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مشاركة: #36
مِنْ أجلِ خلاصٍ صحيح .. لا بد منْ زواجِ المسيح
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ليس الشرك وتعدد الإلهة في القول بتجسد الله يأتي من إمكانية البنين والبنات والأحفاد والحفيدات، ثم السلالة الممتدة من الآلهة.
ليس هذا فقط ..

بل مجرد الإيمان بأن الله (تعالى) نزل فتجسد في إنسان ... .. وقبول العقل لهذا الأمر ... واعتباره أمراً جائزاً على الله .. هو في نفسه شرك بالله.
لأننا إذا اعتقدنا بجواز ذلك على الله.. فما يمنع أن يفعل ذلك مرة ثانية ... وثالثة...ورابعة ... إلى ما يشاء هو .. ؟

ما يمنع أن يتجسد في ناسوتك أنت، لتكون ابناً آخر ... أو يتجسد في ناسوتي أنا لأكون ابناً كما كان المسيح ابناً، أو يتجسد في ناسوت من يشاء من البشر .. مادام أمكن تجسد الله في ناسوت يسوع .. وقبلنا ظهور الله في الجسد... فظهوره في أي جسد أمر ممكن وجائز.

ما الذي يمنع ذلك؟
ما الذي يمنع ظهور الله في أجساد أخرى؟

هل لأن نواسيتنا تحمل الخطية ... وجسد يسوع لا يحمل الخطية؟
حتى لو قلنا أو سلمنا أن جسده لا يحمل خطية ... فليس الله عاجزاً أن يخلق ناسوتاً مثله لا خطية فيه.

فالذي خلق يسوع من مريم وجنبه الخطية.. يستطيع ان يخلق أجساداً أخرى وهو القادر سبحانه كذلك ويجنبها الخطية.
ومعنى ذلك أن عقيدة التجسد تسمح بوجود آلهة آخرين من أبناء الإله ..عشرات، أو مئات، أو ماشاء الله أن يكون على قدر ما يتجسد في هذه النواسيت.

ويلاحظ .. أنه يمكن أن يكون هذا بالفعل ..
بمعنى أن يأتي بعد زمن مَن يتجسد الله فيه، كما تجسد في يسوع ..ويأتينا ويقول أنا ابن الله .. إله حق من إله حق.

ويمكن ألا يكون هذا .. لا يأتينا أحد، ولا يتجسد الله في ناسوت أخر، لكن يظل إمكانية الأمر قائمة ولو لم تقع.
مرة أخرى إن عقيد التجسد عقيدة شركية .. إنها عقيدة تقول بتعدد الإلهة .. أو إمكان تعدد الإلهة.
بل هي من أشد العقائد إشراكاً بالله.
إن عقائد الوثنين قد تقتصر على بضع آلهة .. أما عقيدة التجسد التي تؤمن بها المسيحية فإنها تجعل عدد الآلهة لا حصر لهم.
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