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زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى
Fadie غير متصل
عضو متقدم
****

المشاركات: 447
الانضمام: May 2007
مشاركة: #91
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى
مازال الزميل eeww يتجاهل ما وضعناه من أدلة , و عليه لن نقدم جديد قبل ان ننتهى من هذه اللعبة التى تروق للزميل eeww الذى فقد اعصابه بشكل سريع جدا!!!!

وضعت للزميل الرابط التالى و به قصة الزانية فى البشيتا :

http://aramaicnewtestament.org/gospel/john_8.htm

اين الرد؟ اين تعقيب الزميل عليه؟ لا يوجد!!!!!

اثبتنا بما لا يدع اى مجال للتشكيك فى كلامنا , بأن الموقع الذى احتج به الزميل ما هو الا موقع له اعتقادات غريبة و ابتداعات حديثة لم نسمعها من قبل و وضعت رد ميتزجر بنفسه عليهم فتسقط بهذا حجية و دلالة الموقع , اين رد الزميل؟ اين تعقيبه على ما قلناه؟ لا يوجد!!!!!!!!!!

وضعنا موقعا اخرا للبشيتا و يحتوى على القصة و ها هو :

http://aifoundations.org/peshitta/john.html

و وضعنا موقعا ثالثا :

http://www.standardversion.org/syriac1905/john.php

اين رد الزميل؟ لا يوجد!!!!!!!!!

رغم اننى قمت بالرد على احتجاجه بالموقع الذى ذكره و اثبت بطلان الاحتجاج به و اما الزميل فلا يعير أدلتنا اى اهتمام!!!

قلنا له ان تراجليس بنفسه يُقر بانها موجودة فى النُسخ المتقدمة فلم نسمع ردا!!!!!

و اصبح دليل الزميل الوحيد هو السينائية السريانية , و سأتغاضى عن مراجعة ما كتبه الان و البحث فى مصداقيته و سأسلم بأن القصة غير موجودة فى السينائية السريانية , فهل انا ذكرت هذه النُسخة فى بحثى او قلت عنها انها بها القصة فى البحث؟ قلت ان ترجمة مردوك التى اتهمها الزميل بأنها ليس لها ثقل علمى بها القصة , و وضعنا أدلة اخرى تؤيد هذا الكلام , و بينا سبب حذف هذه القصة من المخطوطات القديمة , لماذا لا يجيب الزميل تساؤل هورن حتى الان , و هو , لماذا تمت اضافة قصة كهذه؟؟؟ لماذا يأتى ناسخ ليضيف نصاً كهذا؟؟؟

و لم نجد رداً من الزميل , كل ما رأيناه هو اتهامات لا معنى لها امام صمت الزميل عن أدلتنا , و أصبحت السينائية السريانية هى دليل الزميل الوحيد فى النصوص السريانية , و بعيدا عن التخريف الذى قاله هو حول اكبر موقع للنقد النصى على الشبكة , فقوله :


Arrayالتفسير بسيط جدا النص يذكر الصفحات المفقودة و ليس الاعداد المفقودة[/quote]

يا له من تفسير فى منتهى الخطورة!!!!!

نص الموسوعة الذى يقول :

142 of 166 leaves survive; including Matt. 1:1-6:10, 7:3-12:4, 12:6-25, 12:29-16:15, 18:11-20:24, 21:20-25:15, 25:17-20, 25:25-26, 25:32-28:7, Mark 1:12-44, 2:21-4:17, 5:1-26, 6:5-16:8 (without either the long or the short ending), Luke 1:36-5:28, 6:12-24:52, John 1:25-47, 2:16-4:37, 5:6-25, 5:46-18:31, 19:40-end

142 رق من 166 يحتوى على مت 1:1-6:10, 7:3-12:4, 12:6-25, 12:29-16:15, 18:11-20:24, 21:20-25:15, 25:17-20, 25:25-26, 25:32-28:7 , مر 1:12-44, 2:21-4:17, 5:1-26, 6:5-16:8 (بدون اى من النهاية الطويلة او القصيرة) , لو 1:36-5:28, 6:12-24:52 , يو 1:25-47, 2:16-4:37, 5:6-25, 5:46-18:31, 19:40 للنهاية

اصبح هذا الكلام عند eeww صفحات و ليس اعداد!!!!!!!!!!

اصبح هذا النص الذى يذكر ما تحتويه رقوق المخطوطة , هو الصفحات التى لا تحتويها المخطوطة!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

يا رجل هل وصل بك الحال الى هذه الدرجة؟؟؟ ما هذا التخريف الذى تقوله؟؟؟

و لكن راّفة منى بحالك سأسير وراء ما اسميته دليلا :


Arrayو الدليل :
افتح هذه الصفحة
http://alpha.reltech.org/cgi-bin/Ebind2h...Sin?seq=62

تجد اخر عدد هو 6 : 10 اقلب الصفحة تجد صفحة فارغة اى مفقودة من المخطوطة
http://alpha.reltech.org/cgi-bin/Ebind2h...Sin?seq=63[/quote]

و اكبر موقع للنقد النصى على الشبكة - كما قال الزميل - يقول ان اول جزأ بالمخطوطة من متى هو 1 : 1 - 6 : 10 , اى ان الموقع ذكر الاعداد الموجودة فى النُسخة , فما هذا التخريف الذى تقوله؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

اما عن وضعك لصورة النُسخة و الترجمة فأشكرك كثيرا عليهما , فكلمات بسيطة جائت فى هامش الترجمة ستوضح لنا اشياء كثيرة!

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هل لك ان تفسر لنا ما بداخل المُربع الاحمر؟؟؟ بالتفصيل اذا سمحت!

و لم نرى ردا من الزميل حول كلام ويستكوت الذى احتج به هو , بأن السريانية الاورشاليمية (الفلسطينية) تحتوى على نص قصة الزانية!!!!

و دعنى ازيدك من الشعر بيتا :

بروس تيرى يقول ان القصة جائت فى الفلسطينية و الهيراقلية :


John 7:53-8:11:
TEXT: include John 7:53-8:11 here
EVIDENCE: D E F G H K M U Gamma Lambda Pi 028 28 700 892 1010 Byz most lat vg syr(h,pal) some cop(north)
TRANSLATIONS: KJV ASV RSV1n RSV2 NASV NIV NEBn TEV
RANK: A to omit

http://bible.ovc.edu/terry/tc/lay09jhn.htm

و كذلك UBS4 Apparatus يضع السريانية الفلسطينية من ضمن المخطوطات الموجود بها القصة :

E G H S Λ ƒ1 ƒ13 28 180 205 579 597 700 892 1006 1010 1243 1292 1342 1424mg 1505 Lectpt itaur, c, e, ff_2, j, r_1 vg syrpal copbo_pt eth slavmss_mg

و بالمثل تشيندروف فعل Tischendorf , Critical Apparatus , Vol. 1, Page 831 - 832

فهل سنرى رداً من الزميل؟؟؟
10-19-2007, 05:25 PM
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