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زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى

تحية للجميع

اولا الزميل نيوترال :


هناك نقطة يبدو انها غير واضحة و كانت تحتاج الى توضيح منى

موضوعى هذا للرد على ما يسميه فادى بحثا و كما قلت فى ردى الاول لولا وجود اسم القس عبد المسيح لما التفت الى فادى ليس فقط لان البحث ضعيف و ركيك بل لانه منقول من موقع ذكرته سابقا.

و اذا كنت انوى ان ابحث فى قصة المراة الزانية هذه فان البحث سياخذ اتجاة قريب جدا مما اقترحته انت و لكن ليس هذا مكانه

هنا نبين مدى جدية البحث و ما هى قيمته و كما ترى النتيجة اعتقد انها ليست صعبة على احد.

و كما ترى نحن نبحث فيما كتبه فى بحثه و عندما حوصر لجا الى معلومة اخرى لم يكتبها و هذا لا اسمح به اذا اراد ان يناقش معلومة جديدة عليه ان يصحح القديمة و يضع الجديدة مكانها .


هكذا تتم المناقشة هنا و اى غير متخصص سيفهم اذا كنت اراوغ ام فادى يراوغ

و ارحب بتوضيح ما غمض على اى شخص .......

. و بعد مناقشة فادى ستكون عندى حصلية كافية لكتابة بحث كامل عن الموضوع بعون الله بالطريقة التى اشرت اليها



بخصوص اخطاء فادى التى تثبت جهله الشديد فقد ذكرت له عدة اخطاء منها :

اولا يسمى المخطوطة السينائية الفا اول حرف فى الابجدية اليونانية مع ان اسمها الف اول حرف فى العبرية و لكنه الجهل المركب كفاك الله شره

و يكتب كلمة جزء هكذا جزأ و هذا خطا يدل على جهل ايضا و لا يصلح

و صيغة الجمع لكلمة مخطوطة كودكس
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فهو يضعها هكذا
Codexes
و الصواب
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ثانيا فانس :

انا وضعت الصورة الكبيرة هذه كلها لتقرا ما فيها من الادلة الكثيرة الطاغية التى تثبت عدم اصالة القصة لانها ستنفعنا مع تقدم المناقشة و لكن نحن نتحدث فى نقطة واحدة هى البشيتا و الصفحة المصورة تقول بالانجليزية :
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هل ممكن ان تترجم انت و الحمد لله انا اضع النص الانجليزى و لا اترجمه حرفيا و اذا صححت الترجمة فلا مانع و لكن التدليس قصة اخرى .


التدليس هو من يضع جملة مثل هذه :


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و بديهى انه مدلس و غير دقيق اذ ترفقنا به .

و الان اسالك هل هذا هو كل ما عندك هل تركت الصفحة كلها و لم تقرا الا ما تعتبره خطا لى

انا وضعت الصحفة بالكامل لانها ستنفعنا كثيرا فى المناقشة و عندما نصل الى النسخ اللاتينية ستفاجا بمعلومات كثيرة و لكن دعنا نركز الان فى البشيتا التى تقول نفس الصفحة التى وضعتها انت :

بالعربى

القصة محذوفة من افضل نسخ البشيتا
هل الترجمة صحيحة

هل ذكر فادى فى بحثه ذلك ؟؟؟؟.

انت لا تبحث و لا تناقش انت تبحث عن اى خطأ لى و الحمد لله لم تفلح حتى الان و حتى لو اخطأت فانا لست مدلسا

و الله المستعان

و الرد على فادى غدا ان شاء الله

و الله من وراء القصد

و الحمد لله رب العالمين

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زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-26-2007, 04:50 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-26-2007, 04:51 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-26-2007, 07:23 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Serpico - 09-26-2007, 07:30 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-26-2007, 08:28 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-26-2007, 10:39 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-27-2007, 12:56 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-27-2007, 02:44 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-28-2007, 10:30 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-28-2007, 11:19 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-30-2007, 07:08 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 09-30-2007, 08:41 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-01-2007, 09:27 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-02-2007, 09:33 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-02-2007, 09:56 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-03-2007, 03:24 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-03-2007, 10:16 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-04-2007, 05:04 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-04-2007, 08:07 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-05-2007, 07:11 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-05-2007, 12:24 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-05-2007, 01:45 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-05-2007, 02:11 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-05-2007, 03:04 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-05-2007, 06:08 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Serpico - 10-05-2007, 06:15 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-06-2007, 04:53 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-07-2007, 02:32 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-08-2007, 05:11 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-14-2007, 06:09 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-14-2007, 07:49 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-15-2007, 10:54 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-15-2007, 09:27 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-15-2007, 11:37 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-17-2007, 09:15 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-17-2007, 01:41 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-18-2007, 05:56 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-18-2007, 10:30 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-19-2007, 05:25 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-19-2007, 05:29 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-19-2007, 11:05 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-19-2007, 11:24 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-19-2007, 11:55 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-20-2007, 05:26 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-20-2007, 06:02 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-20-2007, 06:06 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة neutral - 10-20-2007, 06:11 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-20-2007, 06:13 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة neutral - 10-20-2007, 06:19 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-20-2007, 07:57 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-20-2007, 08:21 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة neutral - 10-20-2007, 09:57 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة neutral - 10-20-2007, 10:13 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-22-2007, 01:09 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Serpico - 10-22-2007, 04:13 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-22-2007, 05:33 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة neutral - 10-22-2007, 09:39 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة neutral - 10-23-2007, 12:29 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-23-2007, 12:30 AM
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-23-2007, 04:45 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-23-2007, 09:47 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-23-2007, 11:44 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-23-2007, 11:52 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-24-2007, 09:06 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-28-2007, 09:16 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة kimo14th - 10-28-2007, 10:59 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 10-28-2007, 11:30 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 10-31-2007, 03:33 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 10-31-2007, 07:25 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 11-01-2007, 07:18 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 11-01-2007, 11:08 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-02-2007, 10:36 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة - ANTI - 11-04-2007, 03:30 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة zaidgalal - 11-04-2007, 11:47 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-07-2007, 03:38 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 11-08-2007, 12:53 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 11-08-2007, 09:19 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 11-10-2007, 12:31 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 11-10-2007, 02:20 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-15-2007, 08:34 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-15-2007, 10:55 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 11-16-2007, 12:12 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-16-2007, 12:51 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-16-2007, 11:12 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 11-16-2007, 01:07 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-16-2007, 01:39 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Serpico - 11-16-2007, 05:24 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 11-16-2007, 09:17 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 11-16-2007, 09:30 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 11-17-2007, 12:31 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة ayoop2 - 11-17-2007, 04:24 AM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 11-17-2007, 02:15 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-17-2007, 04:10 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Raheel - 11-17-2007, 06:02 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Fadie - 11-18-2007, 05:19 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Raheel - 11-18-2007, 06:45 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 11-18-2007, 07:00 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Raheel - 11-18-2007, 07:14 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Raheel - 12-08-2007, 02:34 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Raheel - 12-09-2007, 08:04 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 12-09-2007, 09:18 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Raheel - 12-09-2007, 10:12 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة eeww2000 - 12-09-2007, 10:41 PM,
زانية تتحدى وخادم الرب يتردى - بواسطة Raheel - 12-10-2007, 02:43 PM,

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