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الانضمام: Jan 2007
مشاركة: #52
هل هل كتب يوحنا قصة الزانية ؟
الزميل فانس تحية وبعد :

إن قبول المراسيل عند البعض كما أشار العميد فيما يخص المسلمين ولا يُستدل به على غيرهم ولا يلزمون به أحد سواهم له ضوابط وليس على إطلاقه سواء عند مالك أو الشافعي أو أبو حنيفه رحمهم الله .

فجميعهم إن قبل مراسيل كما عند مالك رحمه الله سواء من الصحابة أو التابعين فلا يُقبل إلا من العدول الثقات , ومعلوم بالضرورة أن الصحابة كلهم عدول ثقات , فإن قال الصحابي قال رسول الله وجب تصديقه حتى وإن أرسل أما الطبقة التي تليهم فوجب أن يكونوا عدول ثقات أو كما قال القرطبي رحمه الله فيما يلي أدناه :

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وقال القرطبي : ليعلم أن محل الخلاف إنما هو فيما إذا كان المرسل ثقة متحرزا بحيث لا يأخذ عن غير العدول قال : ويلزم الشافعي , والقاضي أبا بكر القول بالمرسل حينئذ , لأنهما قبلا التعديل بالمطلق , والمرسل إذاعُلم , من حاله أنه لا يروي إلا عن عدل قبل منه , كما لو صرح باسمه . ا هـ .
وعلى هذا فيرتفع النزاع في المسألة , وبه صرح إلكيا الطبري فقال : إذا تبين من حال المرسل أنه لا يروي إلا عن صحابي عن رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم , أو عن رجل تتفق المذاهب على تعديله .....
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ولكن بقي هاهنا شيء وهو أنه قد ذكر في أصول الفقه أن قول الصحابي فيما لم يعلم اتفاق سائر الصحابة عليه ولا اختلافهم فيه إنما يوجب التقليد فيما لا يدرك بالقياس ; لأنه لا وجه له إلا السماع أو الكذب , والثاني منتف فتعين الأول لا فيما يدرك بالقياس ; لأن القول بالرأي منهم مشهور والمجتهد يخطئ ويصيب , والظاهر أن ما نحن فيه مما يدرك بالقياس , ولهذا استدلوا عليه بالدليل العقلي الذي مرجعه القياس على ما تقرر في علم الأصول حيث قالوا : ولأنه فحل يجامع , ولم يعلم اتفاق سائر الصحابة على قول عائشة المذكور هنا فيلزم أن لا يوجب التقليد فكيف يتم الاستدلال به
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الخلاصة ** لا قبول للمرسل مطلقاً عند مالك أو غيره رحمه الله إلا بضوابط . كما أنه لا يحل حراما قبله , كما أن هذا لا يكون في قبول آية من القرآن أو ردها أو يعارض حديث صحيح للرسول صلى الله عليه وسلم , فلا مجال للقياس هاهنا أيضاً ولا محل للنظر.
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البحر المحيط - المذاهب في قبول رواية المرسل - وغيره .

وتقبل تحياتي .
(تم إجراء آخر تعديل على هذه المشاركة: 11-02-2007, 05:38 AM بواسطة ayoop2.)
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