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صحيح 100% وأنا سمعت شمعون بيريس يصيح في الكنيسيت الاسرائيلي بنفس الكلمات التي قالها فضل. عامل الزمن لا يعمل أبدا في هذا الصراع إلى جانب اسرائيل

و حل الدولة الواحدة ذات القوميتين الذي كان ينادي به ادوارد سعيد سوف يعيد وضع اليهود في الصراع إلى أسوأ ما كان عليه الحال قبل الـ 1948 وسوف يؤدي بالضرورة إلى انهيار دولة اسرائيل من الناحية الفعلية بسبب تحول اليهود فيها لأقلية ، لذلك هم لن يقبلوه وهذا ما لا يفهمه بعض الذين ينادون بهذا الحل من الفلسطينيين ، ولا مفر أمام اسرائيل الآن سوى قبول حل الدولتين أو الاستمرار في المماطلة والاستيطان والاستمرار في تكريس حالة التداخل السكاني عقودا أخرى مع الأخذ بعين الاعتبار أن نسبة الزيادة السكانية والخصوبة عند الشعب الفلسطيني هي الأعلى في العالم(*) ، إلى حين أن يجدوا أنفسهم أمام وضع لا سبيل فيه إلا لحل الدولة الواحدة ذات القوميتين رغما عنهم
(*) للعلم فإن عدد ما يعرف بفلسطينيي 48 الذين يعيشون في دولة اسرائيل كان في زمن النكبة 125 ألف نسمة وهو الآن 10 أضعاف هذا الرقم وهناك دراسات تؤكد أن دولة اسرائيل سوف يتحول اليهود فيها لأقلية والعرب لأكثرية في خمسينات هذا القرن إذا استمرت الزيادة السكانية للعرب على هذه الوتيرة
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يا ثندر

نحن ذاهبون مع الزمن وضمن التطور الطبيعى للاحداث فعلا لدولة ثنائية القومية وما اقامة دولة فلسطينة الا خطوة فى هذا الطريق وخطوة تلعب فى صالحنا للوصول لهذا الهدف فهى تسمح لنا ان ندخل هذا التطور المستقبلى ككيان سياسى منظم وليس كقطيع


ما كان يقوله ادوراد سعيد صحيح تماما لكن ليس بالطريقة التبشيرية المباشرة التى كان يطرحها المرحوم ادوارد سعيد بل عليه ان يمر بمحطات انتقالية ( اهمها على الاطلاق سيكون اقامة دولة فلسطينية تكون دولة للشعب الفلسطينى ولكل الفلسطينين فى كل العالم حاملة لثقافتهم وهويتهم والتى سيسمح لها لاول مرة بتطور فى ظروف وبيئة طبيعية ) وعملية تطور طبيعى سلمية ضمن مدى طويل نحن نطبق اجندة ادوارد سعيد بطريقة عملية افضل منه ( ادوارد سعيد هو من صلب الوطنية الفلسطينية وكان لفترة طويلة مستشارا لياسر عرفات لكنه فى بداية التسعينات انفجر الموقف بينهما فكان ابو عمار فى موقف محرج اما ان يختار احد طرفى صراع نشا فى ذاك الوقت طرفاه ادوارد سعيد و ياسر عبد ربه فوقف ابو عمار لجانب ياسر عبد ربه وحدثت قطيعة بينه وبين ابو عمار وكليهما كان يحمل مرارة شخصية تجاه الاخر ويشعر انه غدر به - رحم الله كليهما )


المكان صغير ولا يحتمل تقسيمه سياسيا وجغرافيا وبيئيا ونحن تشبثنا بالمكان وها نحن اصبحنا فى ارض فلسطين فى الضفة وغزة و فلسطينيى عام 48 ليس اقلية وسيفرض هذا الواقع طوعيا على كلا طرفى الصراع المرير مستقبلا ان يقيما فيه دولة مشتركة ثنائية القومية فى كانتونات ذات طابع ثقافى ولغوى مختلف لكن فى الاعلى سيكون هناك اطار سياسى ما جامع عندها لربما تكون الصهيونية قد استنفذت وانتهت بالتقادم ونفس الشىء سيحدث للوطنية الفلسطينية لكن الخطوة الاولى لكل هذا التطور سيدشنها اقامة دولة الشعب الفلسطينى
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