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توقعاتكم بالنسبة لمؤتمر منيابوليس
حمزة الصمادي مبتعد
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توقعاتكم بالنسبة لمؤتمر منيابوليس
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جيد انك لم تطيل فكلامك غير معقول وتتحدث عن الشعب الفلسطينى كانه قوة سوبرمانية خارقة للعادة

لا احد سيفرض على احد ان يبصم (نحن سنبصم وسنتحمل كل المسؤولية التاريخية والاخلاقية عن فعلنا ولن نطالب باحد ان يتحمل معنا اى مسؤولية ) لن نطلب من احد ان يبصم وان يوافق لكن احد لن يستطيع الخروج من دائرة ما سنبصم عليه الكل سيكون داخل دائرة الطباشير التى سترسم ليس لانه يرغب او لا يرغب بل لان هذا ما سيكون الممكن والمتاح له ولنا كشعب ( الكل فى اعماقه يعرف هذه الحقيقة لكن الكل يبعبع على الفاضى ) لقد شاهدنا هذا المشهد سابقا كانت اوسلوا واقامة السلطة الفلسطينية فى حينها هى ذروة الخيانة والعمالة لكن الكل لاحقا زحف على بطونه ليكون جزءا من هذه السلطة وليشترك فى انتخاباتها وفى شروط اسوا مما كانت عليه فى البداية ( عندما كانت سلطة حكم ذاتى محدودة عميلة )

عند الوصول لاتفاقية قطعا سيعارض البعض وهذا لن يغير من الامر شيئا سيحاول البعض ( هذا ان بقى قائما لحد ذاك الوقت ) استخدام عنف داخلى وخارجى وهذا ايضا لن يغير الموضوع كل ما سيحدث انه سيتم سحقه حينها ( رغم تصورى انه سيتم سحقه قريبا وكمدخل وقبل الوصول لاى اتفاق) وسيتم تركيعه كما حدث مع حماس فى العام 1999 التى كانت قد مسحت عن الارض واصبح اقصى ما يطلبه معظم قادتها حينها هو الحصول على اموال من ياسر عرفات لكن الامور تغيرت بعد نشوء الانتفاضة حيث سمح لهم بل وتم دعمهم للتمدد من جديد نكاية فى اسرائيل فقام هؤلاء بدورهم بالتطور والتمدد باتجاه ممارسة عنف داخلى ارهابى ليس له علاقة بالصراع ضد اسرائيل شاهدنا مظاهره فى غزة لذا اعتقد ان ما سيحدث هذا المرة ليس تاديبهم كما حدث سابقا بل سيتم ابادتهم وبطريقة استئصالية كاملة ... هذا توقعى والله اعلم

صرت لا اطيق هذه المصطلحات ..الشعب الفلسطينى ليس بقطيع... يبصم ...الخ الخ يا اخى الشعب الفلسطينى مثله مثل بقية الشعوب العربية التى ننتمى اليها فى وضعيات معينة بامكانه ان يتصرف اسوا من القطيع بل و من الممكن ان يتصرف كبهائم ..
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عجبتني جملة نحن سنتحمل المسؤولية التاريخية والاخلاقية عن فعلنا
يعني اي انسان بيجي يعمل العمايل بالشعب الفلسطيني ويقول انا بتحمل المسؤولية :closedeyes:

يا اخي كيف ستقنع اي طرف فلسطيني معارض ان لا يخرج عن الدائرة المقدسة اللي رح يرسمها عباس او بالاحرى اسرائيل؟

اما بخصوص موضوع الابادة فحضرتك بتحكي عن حماس وغيرها من المعارضيين كأنهم من كوكب ثاني ومش فلسطينيين زيك زيهم واسمحلي اقول انك يمكن مش دارس الواقع على الارض الفلسطينية لانه عباس مشغول حاليا بالحفاظ على الضفة خوفا من حماس فما بالك بابادة حماس وسحقها


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السادات كان فى وضع اقوى بالمعنى المادى و القانونى لكونه رئيس دولة قائمة وكبيرة ولها مؤسساتها وارثها وليس لاسباب ذات قيمة رمزية او ارث ما يحمله ويمثله ( كحرب اكتوبر كما تكتب ) من الناحية والمعنوية فابو مازن لديه اكثر بنسبة 99% من القوة مقارنة بالسادات فابو مازن يقف على راس المؤسسات التى صنعت الوطنية الفلسطينية بالكامل بل والشعب الفلسطينى نفسه تاريخيا ( منظمة التحرير وحركة فتح )
ضعف ابو مازن مصدره ضعف الشعب الفلسطينى نفسه ونقطة الانطلاق التى يبدا منها ومطالب الشعب الذى يمثله ويمكن تحويل ابو مازن لقوى اكثر من السادات بل واكثر من معظم زعماء العرب الحاليين لو تقاطعت مصالح دولية كبرى فى هذا الاتجاه
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صديقي
انت تتحدث وكأن تاريخ الشعب الفلسطيني ومقاومتة بدأت مع نشوء حركة فتح وتنسى او تتناسى ان مقاومة الشعب الفلسطيني بدأت قبل نشوء فتح بحوالي 50 سنة ودعنا لا ننسى ثورة البراق واضرابات 1936 على سبيل المثال
وانا هنا لا انكر دور فتح فمنذ انشائها كانت فتح في طليعة الحركات المقاومة للاحتلال

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