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من هم السبعين نفسا الخارجين من صلب يعقوب؟
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Arrayلاختلاف السنين ب ( جبر الكسور )[/quote]

اذا جبر الكسور فى السنين وماتحمله من ايام وشهور او يجمع سنه الولاده وسنه الوفاه

Arrayفلو قدرنا ان عدد الخارجين من صلب يعقوب 69 او حتى 67 فيصح اطلاق رقم 70
و الغرض من جبر الكسر هنا هو اعطاء التمام خاصة لما لرقم 7 عند العرب و العبرانيين من مكانة خاصة تجعله هدفا للوصول[/quote]

اولا:-
هل فى احصاء الاسماء كسر؟فكيف ارجو التوضيح

ثانيا:-
الرقم سبعه له مكانه عظيمه عند العبرانيين تجعله هدفا للوصول ...فهل كتابك لايعطى معلومات دقيقه بل على حسب المكانه العظيمه للارقام عند العبرانيين بغض النظر عما تغالطه الاسماء؟


Arrayاما عن السبعينية و اختلافها في عدد ابناء يوسف - عليه السلام - فيمكن القول بان الاعداد المضافة هي اعداد احفاده كما هو متبع من اضافة الاحفاد الي الابناء

3 - السبعينية لا يجب عليها ان تكون مخطئة [/quote]

الترجمه الانجليزيه للترجمه السبعينيه
46:27 And the sons of Joseph, who were born to him in the land of Egypt, were nine souls; all the souls of the house of Jacob who came with Joseph into Egypt, were seventy-five souls

انا لااسال عن العدد خمسه وسبعين نهائيا

انا اسال عن الرقم تسعه الذى ذكر

the sons of Joseph, who were born to him in the land of Egypt, were nine souls

were nine souls

فهل كانوا ابناء واحفاد يعقوب كانوا تسعه؟؟كما قالت الترجمه السبعينيه؟

فياريت تنظر الى اسلئتى بدقه اكثر من فضلك

Array1- دقة الكتاب لا تختلف عن دقة الصحيح[/quote]

الصحيح ليس وحى من الله اما الكتاب المقدس فهو وحى من يهوه ولا ينبغى ان تماثل الدقه بين الاتنين بنفس المقدار ,فالاولى ان يكون كتابك الاكثر دقه

Array2- يمكن التوفيق بطريقة ( جبر الكسور ) مثلما ذهب الحافظ ابن حجر ( ان افترضنا الاختلاف عن التعداد [/quote] )

كيف فى عد الاشخاص؟

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Arrayعلى الاقل انت تخرج بقولك هذا من منهج السلف[/quote]

هذا اعتقادك انت..فمثلا عما قاله عن قصه يوسف عليه السلام مخلوط عليه من القصص اليهوديه

ان كنت ما اقوله ليس هو الواقع فانا بذلك اخرج من منهج السلف واما ان كنت صادق فهذا هو منهج السلف

Arrayو نقله لعمر محمد من اليهود [/quote]

انا لم اقل ان ابن عباس نقل عمر سيدنا محمد من اليهود ..قد يجوز اختلط عليك الامر فى الفهم مش اكثر

Arrayفقط استمر على هذه الطريقة[/quote]

وهو كذلك

Arrayاشكرك لسعة صدرك[/quote]

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