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وأخيرا,,,, مجدي علام ..عمده بابا الفاتيكان .. بيوم الفصح
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وأخيرا,,,, مجدي علام ..عمده بابا الفاتيكان .. بيوم الفصح
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عدرا علي قطع سلسلة التسلسل المنطقي السلس المتسلسل لكن هل قام المسلمون باي مظاهرات؟ ام انك تعتبر انه لا يحق لهم تعبير عن انفسهم بكلمتين علي موقع العربية نت؟
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الصبر ..
بكره تلاقي المظاهرات مالية الدنيا و لسبب أتفه من ده.

شوية رسوم تعبانة حركت الغضب الإسلامي ..
ماتسألش بعد كده ايه اللي مش هيزعل المسلمين.

ثم إن المشكلة مش التعبير بكلمتين ..
المشكلة إنك شايف إن الموضوع يستحق التعليق و اللوم و ربما بعض الغضب و التسخيف.

إذا كان إنت مسلم غير تقليدي و علماني (على ما أظن) و مع ذلك بتلوم البابا عشان عمد واحد عايز يتعمد ..
ليه .. عشان هو بابا و مش المفروض يعمد مسلمين مراعاة لمشاعر المسلمين.
أو عشان فيه كاميرات بتصور هذا الحدث الجارح .. سلامة مشاعرك (f)
و إنه كان أفضل لو إتعمد في اي حتة .. على جنب, عشان مشاعر المسلمين مابتستحملش الهوا.

المشكلة مش في تعبيرك و لا نحوك ..
المشكلة في طريقة التفكير اللي بتشوف العالم بطريقة غريبة.

يعني مجرد عماد واحد بقا مشكلة ..
و اللوم مش على الدماغ الصغيرة لكن على اللي عمد و لم يراعي من لهم تلك الدماغ الصغيرة.

الدنيا إتشقلب حالها يا جدعان :97_old:

و مع ذلك إليك هذا الخبر :

رجل دين مسلم ينتقد تعميد البابا لصحفي مصري

انتقد رجل دين مسلم يشارك في الحوار مع الفاتيكان، تعميد البابا،عشية عيد الفصح، صحفيا مصريا يدعى مجدي علام كان قد تحول إلى المسيحية.

ووصف رجل الدين، عارف نايد الذي يرأس المركز الملكي للبحوث والدراسات الإسلامية في الأردن ت

ورغم أن الفاتيكان لم يعلق بعد على كلام نايد، فإن الجريدة الرسمية الناطقة باسمه قالت إن التعميد "يهدف إلى تعزيز الحرية الدينية".

" وجرت العادة أن يعمد بابا الفاتيكان البالغين الذين تحولوا إلى الكاثوليكية عشية عيد الفصح.

وكان الفاتيكان قد أبقى دعوة علام لتعميده في كنسية القديس بطرس طي الكتمان إذ لم يعلن عنها سوى قبيل بدء مراسم التعميد خلال قداس ديني.

ويُعرف عن الصحفي المصري الذي يعمل في وسائل الإعلام الإيطالية بانتقاداته الصريحة للمتشددين الإسلاميين.

ويحظى علام بحماية الشرطة الإيطالية بعد تحوله إلى الكاثوليكية مخافة تعرض حياته للخطر.


"تسجيل نقاط"

وأدان نايد ما وصفه " بموقف الفاتيكان المتعمد والاستفزازي لتعميد علام في مثل هذه المناسبة الخاصة وبهذه الطريقة الاستعراضية".

وأضاف نايد في بيان صادر عنه " من المحزن أن يتحول فعل التحول من ديانة إلى أخرى، وهو فعل داخلي وشخصي، إلى أداة لتسجيل نقاط".

وقال نايد إن تعميد بابا الفاتيكان، بنديكتوس السادس عشر، للصحفي يأتي "في وقت غير مناسب تماما حيث يعمل مسلمون وكاثوليكيون مخلصون بجد لإصلاح الرتق بين الديانتين".
ويُشار إلى أن رجل الدين الأردني كان من أبرز دعاة مبادرة ضمت أكثر من 130 عالما مسلما وجهوا مؤخرا رسالة إلى بابا الفاتيكان وقادة مسيحيين آخرين دعوا فيها إلى "الانخراط في حوار أوسع وإبداء حسن النية بين المسلمين والمسيحيين".

وكان الفاتيكان قد أبدى بدوره حرصا على إصلاح العلاقات بين المسلمين المعتدلين وخصوصا بعد الأزمة التي تسبب فيها خطاب كان البابا ألقاه في ألمانيا عام 2006 والذي رأت فيه بعض الأوساط الإسلامية ربطا بين الإسلام والعنف.

لكن نايد أضاف أن مبادرة الحوار لتحسين العلاقات ستتواصل رغم ما حدث.

ولم يعلق الفاتيكان بعد على النقد الذي وُجِّهَ إليه لكن الجريدة الناطقة باسمه "لوبسيرفاتوري رومانو" نفت، أن تكون مراسم التعميد كانت تستهدف التحريض، ملاحظة أن هذه المراسم لم يتم الإعلان عنها مسبقا.

وكتبت الصحيفة قائلة إن التعميد هو "لفتة" بابوية خالية من أي نوايا عدوانية، وكانت تهدف إلى التأكيد على "الحرية الدينية بطريقة مهذبة وواضحة".

RA-OL


http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/arabic/world_news...000/7313916.stm


شوف الدماغ ..
عيب يعمده بالطريقة الإستعراضية ديه ..

نفسي أفهم : إشمعنى المسلمين دونا عن بقية الأديان في العالم من يجدون مجرد تنصير بني آدم جارح و مستفز لمجرد إنه مسلم ..
و كأنهم قبيلة ..
و كأن كل مسلم فرد يخصهم بشخصه و ذاته و لا يملك من أمر نفسه شيئا.

ناس عجيييييييييييييييبة. :25:
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