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الاسلام والمسيحية .. العاطفة والعقلانية !

الأخ الحبيب جداً والرائع بصدق بيوتيفل مايند:

أضحكتني كثيراً وأدخلت الانشراح لقلبي بعبارتك الآتية:

Arrayصحيح أن المسيحية تلعب على المشاعر الضعيفة في الإنسان ..
مثل : يسوع يحبك (و لو إنت جدع بجح و قول إن إنت مابتحبوش)
- المسيح ضحى عشانك (و إنت عايز تسيبه يا كلب يا معدوم الإحساس و الضمير)
ألخ ألخ ..
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لعلمك هذا الأسلوب هو تربية البيئة لأنه يتعاطى مع جميع الأمور في حياته بهذا الشكل المثقل بشكل بشع بالشعور بالذنب. لعلمك نحن الشرقيين عامة لنا شهرة في الغرب أننا أساتذة في تحميل الناس الشعور بالذنب ويسمونها guilt trips. ذات مرة كنت في مطعم وانسجمت مع الجالسين وأحدهم لم ينهي الـ steak شريحة اللحم تبعه فبدأت أتصرف بطريقتي المصرية العفوية وبشكل دعابة وقلت: تفعل هذا كله بعدما عملوا كل هذا لأجلك؟ يرضيك؟ تعمل هذا فيهم؟ فضحك الحاضرين جميعهم وسألني أحدهم عن موضوع الـ guilt trips في الثقافة الشرقية وكنت هذه أول مواجهة بيني وبين نفسي عن عاداتنا والتي انغرست فينا انغراساً دون أن ندري. نحن أساتذة في تحميل الناس الشعور بالذنب... تعمل هذا في المسيح؟ يا بجبح؟ بعد كل اللي عمله معك يا واطي؟ يا مش عارف مين؟ خسارة فيك المناولة. خدت جسد الرب ودمه وتعمل كدة؟

والقصة تزداد طرافة عندما يدخل مسيحي الإسلام فتسمع عبارات سخيفة مثل:

كلب وراح.


لماذا كلب؟

صراحة لم أفهم أبداً كيف يكون مسيحي ويؤمن بالحرية وسلوكه هو العبودية ذاتها ويريد تكبيل الاخرين ولو خرجوا عن منظومته يكون الأمر "كلب وراح".

كثيرا ما جحظت عيناي عندما أقرأ قصص الأقباط الذين أسلموا وتعليقات الأقباط عليها فتسمع عبارات مثل: أخت يهوذا.. باع نفسه للشيطان...

قال يعني لو بقى في الكنيسة القبطية لن يكون من يبيع نفسه للشيطان!

وقال يعني هي لو بقت في الكنيسة القبطية وتاخد المناولة وتمارس الطقوس الروتينية فلن تكون أخت يهوذا!

كلام فارغ وينطوي في مجمله وتفصيله على مسألة عقدة الذنب guilt trips.


أحلى بيوتيفل مايند... حروفك لها جمال وبريق افتقدناه يا بطل.
06-04-2008, 05:06 PM
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