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صفحات من التاريخ الدموي للمقاومة الفلسطينية
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صفحات من التاريخ الدموي للمقاومة الفلسطينية
شوف يا انكي, انا اخر واحد تستطيع ان تطالب منه ان يدافع عن بيني موريس, انا بعكسك, تعلمت على يد بيني موريس, وتناقشت معه, وقرأت كتبه, وتظاهرت ضده ايضا بعد نشر تلك المقابلة في هئاريتس. فلا تحاول كما هي عادتك, ان تحول الامر الى شخصنة, لي معه ساعات ما يكفيني لكي اكون رأيا. ولم اكن بحاجة الى بيني موريس من اجل ان اعرف ان مجزرة دير ياسين قد وقعت, لدي من المعلومات من مؤرخين فلسطنيين مثل الياس صنبر ووليد الخالدي ما يكفيني, لكني اتيت بمثال موريس على سبيل اقناع من يشعر بالنقص من كل عربي فاتيته بالنص العبري.

واذا لم تعجبك المقابلة التي كتب عنها العالم كله ( طبعا, اذا اخذنا في الحسبان ان المقابلات الصحافية هي عبارة عن وثائق تاريخية جدا عادية, لكنها ليست كذلك اذ لم تكن مذكورة في فيكبديا ), تلك المقابلة كانت بمناسبة صدور كتاب موريس ( ضحايا ) وكل ما ذكر في المقابلة موثق في الكتاب.

شوف يا انكي, الدنيا ليست ابيض واسود, وليست فيكيبديا هي من يعتمد عليها في ما نحن نناقش, الامور اكثر تعقيدا منان تذهب كل مرة الى فكيفديا التي نعلم كيف يتم تحرير المواد فيها وترجع وتقول " افتح يا سمسم " . كتاب موريس مترجم للغة العربية وتستطيع ان تقرأه , وتتفقد جيد مجلة الدراسات الفلسطينية بالانجليزية ففيها في منتصف التسعينات صنع موريس مجده قبل ان يغير جلده.

لكن القصة هنا هي " الصبينة " وقلة الحياء وعد احترام المشاعر بحجة الموضوعية والتاريخ والنقد البناء الذي يدعيه homo ergaster حتى انه جعل عنوانه على اقل تقدير " حقير " فمن يكتب عنوان كهذا ونص كهذا بعد الحفر الطويل في فيكيبديا ليس لديه ادنى شك ان فلان لديه من الاراء المسبقة والعنصرية ما يكفي دهرا. وعنوانه هو الفلسطنيين اللذين اصبحوا سببا في كل كوارث الدنيا.
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