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[QUOTE]أتحاد روحي ذاتي لا ميكانيكي , الله عزيزي ليس كمثله شئ .

اولا طالما انهم متحدون اتحاد روحى ذاتى لا ميكانيكى يبقى لا تشبهه بعلاقة اليد بالجسم

و لان الله ليس كمثله شئ فلا تضرب الامثال لتمثل ذات الله

و اخيرا

بذمتك انت فاهم معنى اتحاد روحى ذاتى ؟


اقتباس:بالطبع لا هل تستطيع تقسيم روح الله الواحد الأحد .

فيكون المثل الذى تضربه عن اليد و الجسم فى غير محله و غلط


اقتباس:لا تعليق لأن السؤال لا معنى له

هذا هو اخر ما نستفيده من تشبيه الابن باليد و علاقتها بالجسم


اقتباس:بالطبع يتكلم بوحي الروح و لكن عنوان موضوع عبد الرحمن الرئيسي هو الآتي :

أنت تسأل و المسيح يجيب

يعني المفروض أن يذكر أقوال السيد المسيح
( فقط ) لا أقوال رسله عنه بوحي الروح .

لهذا وجب التنبيه .

أليس كلام كتاب مقدس هو كلام الله ( حسب المعتقد المسيحى ) اللى هو نفسه اليسوع ؟

فيكون كلام يوحنا الموحى به من الروح القدس موحى به من الله ( حسب المعتقد المسيحى ) موحى به من اليسوع

اقتباس:لا يوجد خطأ بكلمة الله سواء التي قالها أو التي أوحى بها لرسله ( الحقيقيين ) .

بل هو عباره عن بحر متلاطم من التناقضات و الغلطات و بينها جزر حق صغيره


اقتباس:الأثنان صحيحان و لكن العلاقة بين المسيح و الله تختلف عن العلاقة بين باقي المؤمنين و الله
هذا هو الفارق ببساطة .

شوف يا سيد عبد المسيح

البكر لا يكون بكرا دون اخوه و الا فان كلمة بكر تصبح بلا معنى و تصبح تعبير اجوف

و ان وصفك للعلاقه الخاصه لا ينفى البنوه عن الباقين

و لا ينفى ايضا امكانية وجود علاقه خاصه مع الباقين فهم باقى الابناء

ة لذلك فان تعبير ابنه الوحيد ينفى البنوه عن الباقين و هذا تناقض

لانه لا بكرا دون اخوه و العلاقه الخاصه بين الاب و الابن لا تنفى اى بنوه عن الباقين هو الابن المفضل لانه البكر و هم باقى العائله الكريمه


اقتباس:أقتباس :
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من كانوا مع المسيح وجها لوجه ( man to man ) قالوا نبى عظيم و لم يقولوا إله
-----------------------------
هؤلاء كانوا العامة و لم يكونوا يدركون لاهوت السيد المسيح بعد

سبحان الله

من المعرفو ان البشر العامه قليلة الثقافه تلجأ الى التفسيرات الغير عقلانيه قبل العقلانيه

يعنى العامه يسهل عليهم القول انه اله

اماالمفكر فانه يجد عدة موانع لذلك

العقيله العامه عقليه منقاده و تلجأ الى التهويل بعد الانبهار

فان تبريرك انهم العامه و انهم قالوا انه نبى و ليس اله

هو اكبر دليل انه ليس اله لانه صدر من العامه الذين يلجأون للخرافات و الخزعبلات اكثر من التفكير العلمى المنطقى
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