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انت تسال والمسيح يجيب عليك !!!!!!
عزيزي فري مايند , الأخوة و الأصدقاء الأعزاء

أقتباس :
-----------------------------------
اه قلت لى مجمع نيقيه
يعنى مش اليسوع
ليس لنا صالح به فان كتاب المقدس هو مصدر الدين و هو ما نناقشه
-----------------------------------
فعلا فعلا فعلا : لا أسمع لا أرى لا أفهم

أنت تناقض نفسك , هل تعلم لماذا ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

لأن كافة ما أقدمه لك هو من آيات الكتاب المقدس التي أستند عليها مجمع نيقية
ولكنكم تتبعون مبدأ ( حاوريني يا كيكا ) عندما نقدم لكم آيات الكتاب المقدس ترفضونها
و تتهمون الكتاب بالتحريف و عندما نعرض لكم قانون الأيمان النيقاوي , تقولون نحن نناقش
الكتاب المقدس و كلام السيد المسيح .
يعني ببساطة , العقول مغلقة و كذلك الفهم و لا يوجد أي رغبة في الحوار و التفهم للغير
بل هو رفض مستمر دون فهم .

و لهذا لكي أكون فد أكملت واجبي نحوك و نحو أخواننا القراء سأرد عليك بمنتهى الأختصار
من أجل كافة المتابعين للحوار .

أقتباس :
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الولاده غير الانبثاق
فهل هو منبثق ام مولود ؟
--------------------------------
كلام غير سليم الولادة هي الأنبثاق .

أقتباس :
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بل توجد حراره بدون نار
الا تعلم ان الاحتكاك ينتج حراره تفوق حراره الاحتراق
-------------------------------

أنا مثالي كان محدد عن( النار ) فقط : هل توجد نار لا تشع حرارة ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟
مرة أخرى أسلوب ( حاوريني يا كيكا ) .

أقتباس :
-----------------------------
انت ذكرت فى مداخله سابقه ان الله ارسل المسيح ارسالا داخلى
فسألتك و هل الله قال لك هذا ؟
فتضع لى نصوصا لا علاقه لها بالسؤال و قد حذفت النصوص منعا للاطاله
-------------------------------

لو قرأت بفهم ( و هذا ما أشك فيه ) تجد أن الله يتكلم عن أرسال كائن
ما ( أزلي ) , هل يوجد كائن أزلي سوى الله نفسه . ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟


أقتباس :
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و هل رايت الله لتحكم انه من الممكن تشبيهه بالهواء
-------------------------------------
الله لا يراه أحد قط لأنه غير محدود و لكن الابن الأزلي الذي نقل الله لنا هو الذي
أوضح ذلك المثال .
أقتباس :
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و هل انت واثق تماما من صحة تشبيك الله بالهواء ؟
---------------------------------
نعم .

أقتباس :
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و عندما تشبهه الله بالهواء فمن واجبك ان تقوم بتطبيق باقى خواص الهواء عليه
---------------------------------
لا , لأن الله لا شبيه له و كافة الأمثلة ما هي ألا ( تقريبية ) لكنها لا يمكن أن تنقل لنا
ما هو اللاهوت بطريقة كاملة .

أقتباس :
-------------------------------------
و هل اللاهوت يملئ مجارى الفضلات ؟ و هل اللهوت يملئ الفراغات الموجوده فى داخل الفضلات نفسها ؟
--------------------------------------
رغم سذاجة و سخافة سؤالك و أسلوبك لكن الأجابة : نعم

لأن الله فوق المادة و لا يتأثر بها .

لو قلنا حسب فهمك الخاطئ أن الله في السماء فقط يصبح محدود و كل محدود
حادث , تعالى الله عما تصفون .

أقتباس :
--------------------------------------
يعنى انت تعبد ما لا شكل له
--------------------------------------
طبعا لأنه غير محدود .

أقتباس :
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يعنى تعبد شئ هلامى
-------------------------------------
لا تعليق .


أقتباس :
------------------------------------
عبد المسيح يعبد اله لا شكل له
------------------------------------
يا حلاوتك , تكسب 75 قرش .

أقتباس :
-------------------------
و محاولتك فى الربط بين التاثير و الذات هو ما يسمى تدليسا
--------------------------
و كيف يحدث التأثير بدون وجود الذات يا ناصح .

أقتباس :
----------------------------
هل تعرف معنى كلمة تدليس يا عبد المسيح ؟
------------------------------------------

نعم , التدليس هو أعتبار القرآن معجزة و محمد رسول من عند الله .


أقتباس :
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اى شئ له داخل لابد و ان له خارج او انك تستخدم تعبيرات و الفاظ لا معنى لها
-------------------------------------------
ما عدا الله لأنه غير محدود .

أقتباس :
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تقول داخل الاب يبقى يوجد خارج الاب لتستطيع تحديد الداخل
------------------------------------------
أنا شرحت لك قبل هذا أن داخل الآب : تفيد اتحاد الذات و الجوهر .

أقتباس :
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او انه تتكلم عن شئ وهمى هلامى مثل قولك ان الله لا شكل له
-------------------------------------------
يا سيدي الفاضل أفهمني , كيف يكون هناك شكل لذات غير محدودة
الحدود هي التي تضع الشكل و الله غير محدود و بالتالي لا شكل له .
الموضوع بسيط جدا لو فكرت فيه .

أقتباس :
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ة لذلك فان تعبير ابنه الوحيد ينفى البنوه عن الباقين و هذا تناقض
--------------------------------------
لا لا ينفي لأنه الأبن الوحيد بالطبيعة أي من نفس الذات .

أقتباس :
--------------------------------------
الحمد لله انه قال ابن الله و لم يقول الله
---------------------------------------
الأثنان واحد .

أقتباس :
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و لما هم اعترفوا به اله طيب قتلوه ليه ؟
---------------------------------------
الذين أعترفوا به تلاميذه و هم لم يقتلوه .


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