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أقتباس :
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وهل تستطيع ان تقتل طولي فقط ،او تصلب ارتفاعي فقط
فكيف قتل اليهود اقنوم من الاقانيم دون الاخر ؟؟
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الموت عزيزي هو انفصال الروح عن الجسد ………. أليس كذلك .

روح السيد المسيح عند صلبه و قتله أنفصلت عن جسده و لكن اللاهوت لانهائي فهو حولنا
و محيط بنا من كل جانب , هذا اللاهوت ظل متحد بروح المسيح و بجسده الانساني حتى بعد
أنفصالهما تماما كما تمسك بشيئين مرة تجمعهما سويا و مرة تفصلهما و لكن في كلتا الحالتين
متحد بهما .

لهذا موت المسيح جسديا لا يعني أن اللاهوت مات أو أن الابن ( الكلمة ) الأزلي مات , بل يعني
أن الابن فارق الجسد الانساني فقط لكنه ظل متحدا بالآب اللانهائي تماما كما كان منذ الأزل قبل
تجسده .

الموضع بسيط جدا .


أقتباس :
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(فبهت الذى كفر والله لا يهدي القوم الظالمين)البقرة 258
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سامحك الله و لكني سأرد عليك مما تؤمن به .

( إِذْ قَالَ اللَّهُ يَا عِيسَى إِنِّي مُتَوَفِّيكَ وَرَافِعُكَ إِلَيَّ وَمُطَهِّرُكَ مِنَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَجَاعِلُ الَّذِينَ اتَّبَعُوكَ فَوْقَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا إِلَى يَوْمِ الْقِيَامَةِ ثُمَّ إِلَيَّ مَرْجِعُكُمْ فَأَحْكُمُ بَيْنَكُمْ فِيمَا كُنْتُمْ فِيهِ تَخْتَلِفُونَ) (آل عمران:55)


أقتباس :
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أنتظر رد النصاري بان يقولوا لي ان الله ليس كمثله شئ
فهم يشبهون يشبهون ،ثم عندما نشبه لهم نحن ،ويشعرون
بصدق امثلتنا يقولون الله ليس كمثله شئ
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هو فعلا ليس كمثله شئ ولهذا نقول أن أي تشبيه لا يوفي الله حقه و لا يعطي تصور كامل
عن لاهوته له المجد و لكن ماذا نفعل لكي نقرب لكم حقيقة الله التي أعلنها
لنا من خلال السيد المسيح ؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

الحل هو أن نتبع نفس أسلوبه له المجد حيث كان يكلمهم بأمثال .

أذا أردت أن تعرف من أيضا يشبه الله راجع التالي :

فَهَلْ عَسَيْتُمْ إِنْ تَوَلَّيْتُمْ أَنْ تُفْسِدُوا فِي الْأَرْضِ وَتُقَطِّعُوا أَرْحَامَكُمْ (محمد 22).

حَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّد بْن عَبْد الرَّحِيم الْبَرْقِيّ , قَالَ : ثَنَا اِبْن أَبِي مَرْيَم , قَالَ : أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّد بْن جَعْفَر وَسُلَيْمَان بْن بِلَال , قَالَا : ثَنَا مُعَاوِيَة ابْن أَبِي الْمُزَرِّد الْمَدِينِيّ , عَنْ سَعِيد بْن يَسَار , عَنْ أَبِي هُرَيْرَة , عَنْ رَسُول اللَّه صَلَّى اللَّه عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ أَنَّهُ قَالَ : " خَلَقَ اللَّه الْخَلْق , فَلَمَّا فَرَغَ مِنْهُمْ تَعَلَّقَتْ الرَّحِم بِحَقْوِ الرَّحْمَن " فَقَالَ مَهْ : فَقَالَتْ : هَذَا مَقَام الْعَائِذ بِك مِنْ الْقَطِيعَة , قَالَ : أَفَمَا تَرْضَيْنَ أَنْ أَقْطَع مَنْ قَطَعَك , وَأَصِل مَنْ وَصَلَك ؟ قَالَتْ : نَعَمْ , قَالَ : فَذَلِكَ لَك .
راجع تفسير الطبري (جامع البيان في تأويل القرآن)


الله يجلس على العرش و العرش له أطيط و صرير من ثقله و يشبه الراكب على الرحل

راجع كنز العمال في سنن الأقوال و الأفعال ، كتاب الإيمان و الإسلام ، الباب الثالث ( في لواحق كتاب الإيمان ) ، الفصل الأول في الصفات

1132 - ويحك إنه لا يستشفع بالله على أحد إن شاء والله أعظم من ذلك ويحك أتدري ما الله‏؟‏ إن الله فوق عرشه وعرشه على سمواته، وأرضه مثل القبة وإنه ليئط به أطيط الرحل بالراكب‏.‏ ‏(‏د عن جبير بن مطعم‏)‏‏.‏


29827 – ويحك إنه لا يستشفع بالله على أحد من خلقه، إن شأن الله أعظم من ذلك، ويحك أتدري ما الله‏؟‏ إن الله فوق عرشه، وعرشه على سماواته، وأرضه مثل القبة، وإنه ليئط ‏(‏ليئط‏:‏ وفي الحديث ‏(‏أطت السماء وحق لها أن تئط‏)‏ الأطيط‏:‏ صوت الأقتاب‏.‏ وأطيط الإبل‏:‏ أصواتها وحنينها‏.‏ أي أن كثرة ما فيها من الملائكة قد أثقلتها حتى أطت‏.‏ وهذا مثل وإيذان بكثرة الملائكة، وإن لم يكن ثم أطيط وإنما هو كلام تقريب أريد به تقرير عظمة الله تعالى‏.‏ ومنه الحديث الآخر ‏(‏العرش على منكب إسرافيل‏)‏ وإنه ليئط أطيط الرحل الجديد‏)‏ يعني ذكور الناقة أي أنه ليعجز عن حمله وعظمته، إذ كان معلوما أن أطيط الرحل بالراكب إنما يكون لقوة ما فوقه وعجزه عن احتماله‏.‏ النهاية 1/54‏.‏ ب‏)‏ به أطيط الرحل بالراكب‏.‏ ‏(‏د‏)‏ عن جبير بن مطعم‏.‏


راجع كنز العمال في سنن الأقوال و الأفعال ، كتاب العظمة

29848 - إن كرسيه وسع السماوات والأرض، وإن له أطيطا ‏(‏أطيطا في الحديث ‏(‏أطت السماء وحق لها أن تئط‏)‏ الأطيط‏:‏ صوت الأقتاب‏.‏ وأطيط الابل‏:‏ أصواتها وحنينها‏.‏ أي أن كثرة ما فيها من الملائكة قد أثقلها حتى أطت‏.‏ وهذا مثل وإيذان بكثرة الملائكة، وإن لم يكن ثم أطيط، وإنما هو تقريب أريد به تقرير عظمة الله تعالى‏.‏ ومنه الحديث الآخر ‏(‏العرش على منكب إسرافيل، وإنه ليثط أطيط الرحل الجديد‏)‏ يعني ذكور الناقة، أي أنه ليعجز عن حمله وعظمته، إذ كان معلوما أن أطيط الرحل بالراكب إنما يكون القوة ما فوقه وعجزه عن احتماله النهاية 1/54‏.‏ ب‏)‏ كأطيط الرحل الجديد إذا ركب من شقه ‏(‏شقه‏:‏ الشق‏:‏ نصف الشي‏.‏ النهاية 2/491‏.‏ ب‏)‏‏.‏ ‏(‏بز‏)‏ عن عمر‏.‏

راجع المستدرك على الصحيحين للإمام محمد بن عبد الله الحاكم النيسابوري ، كتاب التفسير ، باب تفسير سورة الأنعام

أخبرنا أبو زكريا يحيى بن محمد العنبري ، حدثنا محمد بن عبد السلام ، حدثنا إسحاق بن إبراهيم ، أنبأ إبراهيم بن الحكم بن أبان ، حدثني أبي ، عن عكرمة ، عن ابن عباس رضي الله تعالى عنهما : أنه سئل هل رأى محمد ربه ؟ قال : نعم رأى كأن قدميه على خضرة دونه ستر من لؤلؤ ! فقلت يا ابن عباس أليس يقول الله : لا تدركه الأبصار وهو يدرك الأبصار ؟ قال : يا لا أم لك ، ذلك نوره وهو نوره ، إذا تجلى بنوره لا يدركه شيء . هذا حديث صحيح الإسناد ولم يخرجاه .

هل الله في الاسلام له سيقان ليكشف عنهما ؟؟؟؟؟؟

يَوْمَ يُكْشَفُ عَنْ سَاقٍ وَيُدْعَوْنَ إِلَى السُّجُودِ فَلَا يَسْتَطِيعُونَ (القلم 42).

ثم أقرأ التالي من كتب الحديث الصحيحة

صحيح البخاري ، كتاب التوحيد ، باب قول الله تعالى لما خلقت بيدي

الله له خمسة أصابع

حدثنا ‏ ‏مسدد ‏ ‏سمع ‏ ‏يحيى بن سعيد ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏سفيان ‏ ‏حدثني ‏ ‏منصور ‏ ‏وسليمان ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏إبراهيم ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏عبيدة ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏عبد الله ‏‏أن يهوديا جاء إلى النبي ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏فقال يا ‏ ‏محمد ‏ ‏إن الله يمسك السموات على إصبع والأرضين على إصبع والجبال على إصبع والشجر على إصبع والخلائق على إصبع ثم يقول أنا الملك فضحك رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏حتى بدت ‏ ‏نواجذه ‏ ‏ثم قرأ و ما قدروا الله حق قدره.

صحيح البخاري ، كتاب التوحيد ، باب ‏قول الله تعالى وجوه يومئذ ناضرة إلى ربها ناظرة‏

‏حدثنا ‏ ‏علي بن عبد الله ‏ ‏حدثنا ‏ ‏عبد العزيز بن عبد الصمد ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي عمران ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبي بكر بن عبد الله بن قيس ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏أبيه ‏‏عن النبي ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏قال ‏ ‏جنتان من فضة آنيتهما وما فيهما وجنتان من ذهب آنيتهما وما فيهما وما بين القوم وبين أن ينظروا إلى ربهم إلا رداء الكبر على وجهه في جنة عدن

هل الله له وجه ليضع حجاب أو برقع عليه ؟؟؟؟؟؟

ولك السلام و التحية
عبد المسيح
02-28-2005, 02:55 PM
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