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"جنازة القحبة" أو "ذكرى معاهدة السلام الإسرائيلية المصرية"
طنطاوي...إزيك يا مان؟

كلامك مقنع وجميل و أفهم وجهة نظر الفلسطيني الذي يرى السادات "خائناً" لأنه فعليا "خان القضية العربية" ولكن بالنسبة للمصري لا تحسب الحسبة هكذا وإلا و كانت اختزالاً مضللاً

1- الخيار عندك كان بين أن تأخذ سيناء "كاملة" و"منقوصة السيادة" أو عدم أخذها تماماً...الحرب التي صدقت عندما اعتبرتها "سنة الحياة" لم تنهي ،ولم تكن لتنتهي، لصالحنا..وكان محسوماً أن تزامل سيناء الجولان وتتفوق عليها في عدد المستوطنات و المواتاة الديموغرافية..
فلا تستطيع أن تقارن حجم "إنتصار" أكتوبر بحجم هزيمة "يونيو"..
هزمنا عسكرياً وأقصى أمانينا كان "تحريك الموقف" , وإذا وضعنا في أذهاننا أن beggars cannot be choosers...
هذا ما فعلناه ولو رضينا "بالكثير" من التنازلات من أجل أرضٍ لن نحررها في المستقبل القريب، لا نعرف عن البعيد، عبر الحرب..
خصوصاً أن التحالفات بين العرب أثبتت فشلها لأننا محترفون في "القحبنة"...

"فالقحبة" ليست هي فقط معاهدة السلام..
القحبة هي تحالف "امين الحسيني" مع الخاسر في الحرب العالمية الثانية من ثم عدم الموافقة على قرار الأمم المتحدة والتقسيم..
وقحبةً أخرى هي حصار الفلوجة واللد والرملة وماكو أوامر وقائد الجيش الأرني "الإنجليزي"..
وقحبةٍ ثالثة هي سقوط سيناء في سويعات في أيدي الإسرائيليين عام 56...
والقحبة الأخرى هي سقوط سيناء مرةً أخرى بخطة هي طبق الأصل من 56 وبنفس السهولة...
قحبة عدم إعلان دولة فلسطينية على الضفة وغزة قبل 67 ومن ثم قحبة سقوط الضفة...واحتلال الجولان...
ثم قحبة رجوع ضباطنا مشي في سيناء تحت شمس يونيو والطائرات الإسرائيلية تصطادهم مثل النمل على صفحةٍ بيضاء...
ثم قحبة عدم قدرة الجيش السوري الإحتفاظ بالجولان بعد أن "ركب العالي"..
طبعاً القحبة الأساسية وهي أن كلنا كعرب ليس بيننا حكومةٌ ديموقراطيةٌ ناجحة في أي شيء على الإطلاق سوى الإستمرار على الكرسي...
طبعاً كلها قحاب مهدت الطريق أمام القحبة موضوع النقاش ومنحتها مناعة من الإتهام في شرفها..


2- ما اتفق فيه معك هو فشل خطط التحديث، والتي كان بعضها متوقفاً منذ 67، في مرحلة ما-بعد-السلام..
أتفق معك إننا لم نصل إلى "الرخاء" الذي إدعى السادات ولفيفه...أتفق معك أن مرحلة ما-بعد-السلام كان عنوانها الفشل على مختلف الأصعدة، بعدما كان عنوان مرحلة ما-قبل-السلام الفشل العسكري..
للأسف كان واجباً علينا أن نجد مشروع قومي بديل....بعد أن "إنتهى" مشروع الحرب مع إسرائيل..
ولكن أنظمتنا "طرمخت" لأنها ليست بقيادات محترفة أو مختارة أو حسنة النية...إختر مما سبق..


لكن يجب أن نفرق بين الترهل والفساد في ما بعد وبين المعاهدة نفسها التي كانت ضرورةً...
وبعيداً عن أن "تنتصر، بالمعنى الشامل" أو "تقدم التنازلات" لا أرى خياراً أخر..
(تم إجراء آخر تعديل على هذه المشاركة: 04-17-2009, 02:56 PM بواسطة AhmedTarek.)
04-17-2009, 02:51 PM
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