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RE: █▓▒░ هـل هناك تنـاقض فـي ترتـيـب الخلـق بالـقـرآن الكـريـم ؟؟ ░▒▓█
(10-17-2009, 03:10 PM)باحث عن الحقيقة كتب:  تحياتي للجميع
أولا أقول لمن يناقش الزميل الصفي بأنه لن يصل معه الى طريق فلديه تشبث بالرأي عجيب وله تفسيره الخاص للقرآن الذي يخالف فيه كل المفسيرين لذلك أنصحه أن يفتح مدونة خاصة فيه يشرح فيه تفسيره الجديد للقرآن وصدقوني أنني وصلت لقناعة لو أننا استمرينا بالنقاش مع كل مسلم له تفسيره الخاص فاننا نضيع وقتنا عبثا ولن نصل الى نتيجة

الزميل باحث عن الحقيقة لا داع لتحويل النقاش نحو شخصي فدونك افكاري المطروحة فندها بالمنطق و الادلة , و تعرف بان نفس الحوار دار بيننا قبل حوالي العام و لم تستطع ايضا دحض ما طرحته لك فهل تريدني ان اتخل عن فكري هكذا؟

اقتباس:ثانيا لي مشاركة بسيطة توضح مفهوم القرآن للسماء :
عندما يقول القرآن : اذا السماء انشقت " " واذا السماء أنفطرت " " رفع سمكها " " سقفا محفوظا "
{ أَلَمْ تَرَ أَنَّ اللَّهَ سَخَّرَ لَكُمْ مَا فِي الأَرْضِ وَالْفُلْكَ تَجْرِي فِي الْبَحْرِ بِأَمْرِهِ وَيُمْسِكُ السَّمَاءَ أَنْ تَقَعَ عَلَى الأَرْضِ إِلا بِإِذْنِهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ بِالنَّاسِ لَرَءُوفٌ رَحِيمٌ } الحج ، 65
هل هنا يتحدث عن طبقات الهواء وهل الانشقاق والانفطار يتخدم للتعبير عن اهواء أم يعبر عن اجسام صلبة ثم ما هذه التي يمسكها الله حتى لا تقع على الأرض هل جزيئات الغلاف الجوي هي التي يمسكها حتى لا تقع علينا واضح أنه يقصد سقفا صلبا
ما دمت تريد ان تخلط الايات بعضها ببعض بدون مراعاة السياق فلن تفهم المراد منها.
الاستخدام العام لكلمة سماء هو كل ما علا.
عندما يعطف السماء / السموات مع الارض يقصد غلاف الارض الجوي فاين هذا الربط في الايات التي اوردتها؟

اقتباس:ثم أخيرا يقول القرآن أن لله ملك وملكوت السموات والأرض في كثير من الأيات وما دامت السموات هي طبقات الغلاف الجوي فلمن بقية ملك الكون اذا ؟ هل هي لآلهة آخرى خاصة أنه لم يذكر من أمر كواكب النجوم شيء وكأن الأمر لايخصه
ارجوك دائما اقتبس نص الايات و لا تتحدث بكلام عام حتى لا تختلق قرانا كما فعل احد الزملاء.
لم يذكر باقي الكون ليس لانه لا يخصه و لكن لانه لا يخص الانسان.
(تم إجراء آخر تعديل على هذه المشاركة: 10-17-2009, 08:24 PM بواسطة الصفي.)
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