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الانضمام: Oct 2009
مشاركة: #76
RE: █▓▒░ هـل هناك تنـاقض فـي ترتـيـب الخلـق بالـقـرآن الكـريـم ؟؟ ░▒▓█
اقتباس:لقد قلت ما عندك و انا قلت ما عندي زميلي العزيز و نقف عند هذا الحد فانت لن تغير رايك و لا أنا و المتصفح امامه حجج كل منا . لن اصف تصورك بالسخف و لكن تصوري مبني على ادلة و نصوص قرانية واضحة تريد ان تُصبغ عليها غموضا من عندك

1- المشكلة أن النصوص القرآنية والنبوية هي التي تتناقض مع طرحك يا عزيزي.. وليس تناقضاً يمكن تأويله بل تناقض ساطع.. وقد سبق أن اوردت لك عشرات الاحاديث النبوية الصحيحة تتناقض مع طرحك ، وكذلك عدة آيات قرآنية.. كلها تنفي تماماً تصورك بأن السماء هي الغلاف الجوي..

2- حتى العلم يقول بأن الغلاف الجوي جزء من الكرة الأرضية.. كما سبق ووضعت أنت الرابط.

اقتباس:فاين المنطق في قولك: هنا أضاف للسماء صفة ليحدد جزءاً بعينه ولم يأت بها مجردة .. فهو يقول "السماء الدنيا" فعرفنا من الوصف أنه يحدد جزءاً بعينه.. وكذلك "العلى" فعرفنا أنه يقصد الجزء العلوي..تقول بان قوله ( السموات العلا) يقصد الجزء العلوي, فعن اي جزء علوي تتحدث و الاية نفسها لم تقسم السموات العلا . التقسيم ورد في سورة فصلت لسماء كانت واحدة سويت الى سبع سموات . سورة طه لم تتحدث عن سبع سموات من اصله.

1- النصوص لا تفهم على حدة بل تضم النصوص إلى بعضها البعض كما هو معلوم.
2- لا أجد أي غمض فيما سبق.. فعندما أراد أن يعبر عن الجزء الأسفل من السماء قال "السماء الدنيا" .. وعندما أراد التعبير عن الأجزاء العليا قال "السمات العلى" ، أتصور أن المعنى واضح.
(تم إجراء آخر تعديل على هذه المشاركة: 10-30-2009, 05:35 AM بواسطة Network connection.)
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