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(12-18-2009, 05:25 PM)أبو النور كتب:  [/size][quote='vodka' pid='410539' dateline='1261080251']
جميع سكان المغرب يعرفون حكايات عن الجنية عيشه قنديشة .. فهل هذا يجعل منها حقيقة واقعة ؟
و اما بخصوص المؤرخين :
يوسيفوس فلافيوس 37 م ـــ 100 م
تاسيتوس 55 م ــ 117 م
سويتونيو 69 م ـــ 140 م
لا يذكرون شيئا عن يسوع الناصري أو عن الطائفة المسيحية على الإطلاق
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ممكن ان تقول لنا من اي سوبر ماركت تستقي معلوماتك يا عزيزي؟

هل فعلا بحث ووجدت ان يوسيفوس لم يتكلم شيئا عن يسوع المسيح؟ هل سمعت عن كتاب له اسمه Antiquities of the Jews

اعتقد انك تعرف الانكليزية, و لذلك لن اترجم لك:

3. Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, (9) those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; (10) as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.
And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.

http://www.ccel.org/j/josephus/works/ant-18.htm

مقتل يعقوب اخو الرب يسوع:
so he assembled the sanhedrim of judges, and brought before them the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James, and some others, [or, some of his companions]; and when he had formed an accusation against them as breakers of the law,

http://old.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/pte...+AJ+20.197

او درست اعمال تاسيتوس مثلا؟
تاسيتوس: Tacitus, The Annals

Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators

http://old.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/pte...Ann.+15.44

سلام.