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RE: موضوع مخصص للسخافات الإسلامية التي أقرأها هنا و هناك
ليس لي نفس للكتابة لكن احببت ان اسجل موقف
ولو ان الموضوع خرج ع مساره , لكن :
كل التهم ( او لنقل الانتقادات ) التي وجهها الصديق غدير للملحدين يمكن تطبيقها على قطاعات واسعه من المسلمين انفسهم سنة
وشيعة وغير ذلك , الراحة النفسيه برايي مرتبطة بظروف الانسان المعيشية وليس لها علاقة مباشرة مع الدين او الفلسفة
نعم قد يوحي الدين للبعض بالراحة النفسية لكنها مجرد اوهام ليس الا ( وجهة نظر )

هل الملحد غير سعيد , السؤال بالاساس غير صحيح و هدفه فاسد , لان الملحد انسان ( قد يتفاجأ البعض ) وله نفس
المشاكل التي يعيشها المؤمن , كل مافي الامر انه يعيش حياته من دون دين , قد يعتقد بوجود نوع من الالهة لكن
من غير سيستم ديني معين , برايي هذا الموقف عملي واكثر عقلانية لاسباب شرحتها لاكثر من عشرين مرة في هذا المكان
وغيره , ببساطة لااحد يستطيع التاكد مااذا كان الله موجودا ام لا , ما انا واثق منه ان اله المسلمين والمسيحيين غير موجود
ولايمكن ان يكون موجود , اما الاله كفكرة فهو مسالة جدلية تحتمل الرد ولاخذ ..
بايامنا هذه يوجد اكثر من الف ديانة وكل ديانه لها عشرات الماركات والفروع طبعا كل فرع صغير يدعي الصلاحية ومن هذا
المنطلق يبدو انه من العبث البحث والبحبشة لان الانسان عمره قصير وشخصيا ليس عندي الوقت او الجهد لكي ابحث بالمذاهب
والفئات الختلفة , نعم قمت ببعض الresearch ووصلت لنفس النتيجة اعلاه ..
شخصيا مرتاح بحياتي للغاية , بل في قمة السعادة ( حلاوة الالحاد يعني Cool) طبعا قد يقول البعض ان الملحد لا اخلاقي والامر
يتعلق بمنبع الاخلاق والرد ( كما يقول علي نور الله ) :
يا جماعة انتم ايضا لستم اخلاقيين , الاخلاق نسبية , البعض يعتقد ان محمد (ص) كان رجل على خلق , والبعض يعتقد
انه سفاح و زير نساء و و وو الخ .. نعم يوجد الكثير من الايجابيات بالدين الاسلامي والمسيحي لكن يوجد العديد من الثغرات
الاخلاقية عند الفريقين , الامر اشبه بالنرد او الحظ واي شخص عاقل ينبغي ان يبني قرارته على المنطق وهنا يقول
غدير ان التفكير والتدبر يجلب التعب النفسي وعدم الراحة , بالواقع هذا الكلام نسبي ايضا والبعض يظن ان الجهل نعمة فهنيئا
لكل المؤمنين بجهلهم وليبقو سعداء طالما الامر مسالة تتطلب اعمال العقل !


ما اريد قوله من كل المعمعة اعلاه : الاخلاق و السعادة امور نسبية , وطالما نتحدث عن النسبة والتناسب فالاحصائات
تقول ان الملحدين انجح الناس واكثرهم علما وسعادة , لايعني ذلك انهم احتكروا العقل ولكن الامر نسبي 10
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